Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets
Wendy Roome <wendy@wdroome.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 20:46 UTC
Return-Path: <wendy@wdroome.com>
X-Original-To: 93attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 93attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067C01A9060
for <93attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id s4d59RHhNuNs for <93attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from itihasa.pair.com (itihasa.pair.com [209.68.5.116])
(using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
(No client certificate requested)
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 257FC1A040B
for <93attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [31.133.136.54] (dhcp-8836.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.136.54])
by itihasa.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBE6AF74AD
for <93attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:46:26 -0400 (EDT)
User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:46:23 +0200
From: Wendy Roome <wendy@wdroome.com>
To: <93attendees@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <D1D47B59.1C01E%wendy@wdroome.com>
Thread-Topic: [93attendees] Pickpockets
References: <55AE03C2.7070902@agh.edu.pl>
<20150721085334.5275730.37292.18422@krsek.cz>
<7B3EEE35-7E20-4219-B0CF-609446B78EEA@unina.it>
<D1D3DCD5.10C6C9%jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com>
<53655310-A725-4675-B3FB-335E8CCA263A@gmail.com>
<p06240605d1d3eacbcd5f@[130.129.14.251]>
<55AE3CE9.2040501@alum.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <55AE3CE9.2040501@alum.mit.edu>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain;
charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/93attendees/lZIka3oNByAuy0z8gR3dlR0Sr-4>
Subject: Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets
X-BeenThere: 93attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 93 attendees that have opted in on this list. "
<93attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/93attendees>,
<mailto:93attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/93attendees/>
List-Post: <mailto:93attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:93attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees>,
<mailto:93attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:46:31 -0000
Yes, and you should hike in groups in bear country. Then you don¹t have to outrun the bear. You just have to outrun the slowest person in your group. On 07/21/2015, 14:36, "93attendees on behalf of Paul Kyzivat" <93attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >On 7/21/15 8:28 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: >> At 1:37 PM +0200 7/21/15, Bob Hinden wrote: >> >>> On Sunday I went out of the hotel, took the subway, went to the >>> astronomical clock, walked over the bridge, had lunch, all without >>> having my wallet taken :-) >> >> Likewise, if your packets weren't compromised during Monday's sessions, >> then everyone's packets are safe all the time. >> >> Consider that pickpockets have not scaled sufficiently to be able to >> pick everyone's pocket everywhere, and hence must be somewhat selective >> as to which times, locations, and persons are targeted. Perhaps we could >> engineer a scaling or at least selection solution for them? > >There is a known solution used by prey to mitigate the effects of >predators: herding/schooling. If all IETFers agreed to travel in a herd, >then the fraction being pickpocketed would be reduced. > >_______________________________________________ >93attendees mailing list >93attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees
- [93attendees] Pickpockets Piotr Wydrych
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Tomáš Čejka
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets michal
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Simon Pietro Romano
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Василий Долматов
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Michal Krsek
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Carlos Martinez
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Livingood, Jason
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Carlos Martinez
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Benoit Claise
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Bob Hinden
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Tomáš Čejka
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Eric Gray
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Andrew Allen
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Wendy Roome
- Re: [93attendees] Pickpockets Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation David C Lawrence
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Howard, Lee
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Ben Campbell
- [93attendees] Taxi (was: Social Event Appreciatio… Piotr Wydrych
- Re: [93attendees] Taxi Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Taxi (was: Social Event Appreci… Bob Hinden
- Re: [93attendees] Taxi michal
- Re: [93attendees] Taxi Piotr Wydrych
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Alia Atlas
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Alia Atlas
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Tony Hansen
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Jeff Haas
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Francis Dupont
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Sandra Murphy
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Tina Tsou
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation bruno.decraene
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Sowmini Varadhan
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Василий Долматов
- Re: [93attendees] Taxi Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Jen Linkova
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Василий Долматов
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Francis Dupont
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Ondrej Filip
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Fedyk, Don
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [93attendees] Social Event Appreciation David C Lawrence