Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
Rolf Winter <rolf.winter@hs-augsburg.de> Tue, 14 July 2015 07:29 UTC
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Hi Dave, I am not sure I fully understand your question. You surely have noted that hs-augsburg.de != augsburg.edu so I assume you refer to the more general question of experimenting with human subjects. In my mind typically things like clinical tests fall under this. We will look solely at broadcasts (and multicast for that matter) sent out by devices. In essence data that devices send out to all other devices on a subnet. Clearly any IETF participant can conduct this experiment... well anybody on the IETF wireless can. We do not actively attempt to trigger broadcast/multicast communication, we merely listen to what the devices send out to everyoneon their own. But I am not sure I have answered your question. If not, could you be more specific? Best, Rolf Am 7/13/15 um 10:30 PM schrieb Dave Crocker: > On 7/13/2015 1:13 PM, Rolf Winter wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> during the meeting we plan to conduct an experiment on the IETF wireless >> network. We will record the broadcast traffic sent over the network with >> the goal of analyzing current applications' use of IP broadcasts. > ... >> http://net.hs-augsburg.de/projects/2015/07/09/ietf-broadcast-analysis.html > > Hmmm. Assurances on that web page notwithstanding doesn't this fall > under human subjects rules for experiments and/or rules of privacy > protection? For example: > > http://inside.augsburg.edu/irb/ > > If not, why not? If so, how have the relevant requirements been satisfied? > > Thanks. > > d/
- [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeti… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jari Arkko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randy Bush
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Benson Schliesser
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens