Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy

Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org> Sat, 25 July 2015 09:48 UTC

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On 07/25/2015 11:24 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote:
> On 25/07/15 10:13, Michal Krsek wrote:
>> So on my perspective - we need to thank CZ.NIC for supporting
>> IETF and community of Internet engineers (providing free software
>> and other projects) and we should help the event management to
>> make Bits-and-bites form widely acceptable.
> +1 and very well said.
> 
> I did/do not want to react to this discussion at all. So this is
> the only posting I will do about it
> 
> I am very surprised about all the fuss that this generated. Comon, 
> these comments on this list are just blowing up the whole thing. I
> had not even seen these ladies, but when I saw the picture on
> facebook, I think they were dressed nicely. One may wonder indeed
> if we need that at bits and bytes, but it is noit word the fuss
> that this has generated.
> 
> A lot of what people are writing here might be just in the eye of
> the beholder, no?
> 

I strongly disagree with the points made by Bert and Vasily. That
something is not a problem for you personally, doesn't mean there is
no problem at all.

If we want the IETF to be a more enabling and welcoming environment
for a more diverse audience (which is much needed imho) this needs to
be addressed, and these discussions need to be had.

I think there should be no place for misogyny at the IETF, and the
phenomenon of booth babes is definitely a form of misogyny.

Best,

Niels






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