Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Sat, 11 July 2015 09:58 UTC

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> On 10 Jul 2015, at 17:37, Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder@Opus1.COM>; wrote:
> 
> US, Canadian, and Mexican citizens can now get a "Passport Card" which is used for US/Canada and US/Mexico border crossings (not airports). This is additional to their normal passport.
> 
> This card is not valid for general international travel, however it serves as an outstanding identity document you can give to people who have been told to ask for a passport.  For example, most countries require foreigners to register, and hotels do this for you. In 3 years and many countries (including my last trip to Prague), I have not had a hotel refuse my US passport card.
> 
> The main goal of having identification on you when traveling around a city is that the police generally have the right to stop you and ask for such things.  The passport card serves this purpose very well, if you're from a country where you can get such a thing and

Yes, they have this right but they won’t do it unless they have a reason. Just be sure you always have a valid ticket for the public transport and this shouldn’t be an issue at all. Also, normally nobody asks you for an ID in a pub or bar.

Lada

>  essentially have a duplicate 'national identity card.'
> 
> jms
> 
> On 7/10/15 5:28 PM, Lisa Lorenzin wrote:
>> Personally, when traveling internationally I leave my passport in the hotel safe and carry a photocopy of it, plus my US driver's license, while out and about. I've never had an issue with that approach. (I've also never needed to use the photocopy; it's just for the very unlikely possibility that something were to happen to the original - hotel burns down, whatever.)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Lisa
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Praveen Balasubramanian
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:05 AM
>> To: Tim Chown; Toerless Eckert
>> Cc: Behcet Sarikaya; 93attendees@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT
>> 
>> While on the topic of anti-theft precautions, is it recommended to carry travel documents like passport on person or to leave it in the hotel safety deposit box? What do folks prefer?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also related question is would we need an identity document while moving around in Prague? Would a US drivers license suffice for dining establishments etc.?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Chown
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:49 AM
>> To: Toerless Eckert
>> Cc: Behcet Sarikaya; 93attendees@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
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>> 
>> 
>> 	On 9 Jul 2015, at 20:48, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com <mailto:eckert@cisco.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 	
>> 	One other thing i was trying to find but couldn't so far:
>> 	
>> 	I wanted a bluetooth beacon to drop into my backback and get alerted
>> 	when it moves away from me/cellphone.
>> 	
>> 	Alas, my cellphone does not support BT BLE, and all i could find are
>> 	the newer nicer BLE beacons. Does anyone know one thats old school BT ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There was a very well-backed indiegogo project called Trackr, which looks very useful for this type of thing, as it includes a separation alert. It is on sale publicly now:
>> 
>> https://www.thetrackr.com/bravo
>> 
>> It does *seem* to be BLE only, though the compatibility list has some quite old smartphones on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For alerts when you go out of range of BT or BLE, you may find something that would work with a Pebble Time or similar smartwatch. On my Pebble Time I get an alert (the watch vibrates) if I go out of BLE range of my phone, which is handy for not leaving your phone behind somewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For anti-theft, the trouble is that the BT/BLE range is quite long, more than you might think, especially if outdoors, so by the time the alert is triggered your valuables may be beyond recovery.  That’s where a tracker might help, though personally I wouldn’t take on any thief - you don’t know what they might be carrying.
>> 
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>> Tim
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>> 	
>> 	Thanks!
>> 	   Toerless
>> 	
>> 	On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 07:34:14PM +0000, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
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>> 		I haven't seen any comments on this so far?
>> 		
>> 		Behcet
>> 		
>> 		From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Derick Winkworth
>> 		Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:57 AM
>> 		Cc: 93attendees@ietf.org <mailto:93attendees@ietf.org>
>> 		Subject: Re: [93attendees] what currency is widely used in Czech?
>> 		
>> 		I've ordered this backpack for this exact reason, Toerless.
>> 		
>> 		http://www.pacsafe.com/intasafe-z500-anti-theft-backpack.html
>> 		
>> 		That site has other products too for secure traveling.
>> 		
>> 		Derick
>> 		
>> 		On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com<mailto:eckert@cisco.com <mailto:eckert@cisco.com%3cmailto:eckert@cisco.com> >> wrote:
>> 		
>> 		Oh, and try to have the phone numbers to cancel/re-issue all your
>> 		cards handy but separate from your wallet. Well trained pickpocketing
>> 		in Prague. Family member had that experience last Prague IETF.
>> 		
>> 		On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 06:43:12AM +0000, Weixinpeng (Jackie) wrote:
>> 		
>> 		
>> 
>> 			Thanks Vinayak, Get it!
>> 			
>> 			
>> 			
>> 
>> 				-----Original Message-----
>> 				From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org> <mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org%3e> ] On Behalf Of
>> 				Vinayak Hegde
>> 				Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 2:42 PM
>> 				To: Weixinpeng (Jackie)
>> 				Cc: 93attendees@ietf.org<mailto:93attendees@ietf.org <mailto:93attendees@ietf.org%3cmailto:93attendees@ietf.org> >
>> 				Subject: Re: [93attendees] what currency is widely used in Czech?
>> 				
>> 				Czech Republic is part of European Union (and the Schengen Zone) but does
>> 				not use the Euro. It has it's own currency the Czech Koruna. That is what
>> 				everyone will ordinarily accept. There might be some exceptions like high-end
>> 				hotels and tourist shops that might accept the euro but you are likely to get it
>> 				at an insane markup, so it is better to convert it to Czech Koruna.
>> 				
>> 				If you have Euros, expect to convert them to Czech Koruna when you are in
>> 				Prague.
>> 				
>> 				-- Vinayak
>> 				
>> 				On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Weixinpeng (Jackie)
>> 				<weixinpeng@huawei.com<mailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com <mailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com%3cmailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com> >> wrote:
>> 				
>> 				
>> 
>> 					Hi all,
>> 					
>> 					Could somebody tell me what currency should I take with me, Czech
>> 					koruna, Euro or both?
>> 					
>> 					ThanksJ
>> 					
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