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Re: [93attendees] U.S. Attendees: Export Control Documentation??

Richard Lamb <richard.lamb@icann.org> Sat, 25 July 2015 14:09 UTC

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I didn't have any issues either and had a few routers, pc s, smart cards, piv cards, used cac card readers (which I hand out), Mac mini all of which I use regularly for training in distant places.

Such regulations would certainly put a damper on training efforts encouraged and supported by other usg departments.

R



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On Jul 25, 2015, at 07:22, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net<mailto:warren@kumari.net>> wrote:



On Saturday, July 25, 2015, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com<mailto:Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>> wrote:
Hi - I was wondering if any other U.S.-based attendees have been asked by their employers to fill out "export control forms" for the laptop you took along to the IETF focuses on so-called "dual use" technologies.

This was the first time during international travel that I was asked to do so and, frankly, the whole thing seems kind of odd. Our legal folks said that all large companies do this, especially companies like Cisco, Apple, Facebook, Google, etc., but I have never heard another IETF participant mention it.


Me neither... Odd....

W


The form I filled out had a special emphasis on any software that contained encryption, and for each line item of software (e.g. MS Office) they located an Export Control Classification Number (ECCN) that they then included in whatever they sent to the U.S. government (presumably the Dept. of Commerce, Dept. of State, Dept. of Treasury).

Thanks for any feedback!

Jason


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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.
   ---maf
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