Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2015 18:34 UTC
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at> wrote: > I'm with Fred. > > However, having been attracted to their booth, I found in the discussions > with the engineers present, that the level of expertise was not on-par with > many of the questions... tee-hee. That's because I sucked ondrej outside and grilled him about what they were doing for an hour! > They would have had to bring the actual electrical and software engineers > working on the product to the booth on events like this. I am extremely encouraged by what they are doing. They are using the most open chip on the market today (armada 385), which has truly excellent linux support for many features and offloads, it is fast enough to drive gigE well, and there is quite a bit of optimization that can be done to make it even better like adding bql to driver and toning down the (the same chip is also in the linksys 1200ac v2, which we have had a great deal of success with thus far) Their intent seems to be to produce an entirely open design, which could be used as CPE and home router devices, the board and design rebranded by various ODMS and ISPs, utilized with SFP and a choice of wifi cards, and they got a key design criteria of mine right - there are *real* ethernet ports for the wan and lan interfaces, which makes things like link detection, hardware flow control, and fq_codel "just work" -- which is not the case on nearly all new cpe designs which route everything through the switch. They also made a priority automatic updates for openwrt, which warms the cockles of my heart. This box is now my prime candidate for a renewed cerowrt-like effort to produce a extremely capable home router, suitable for further R&D into better, faster, safer edge gateways, and certainly could do homenet better than nearly everything else currently on the market. I hope to look more into the board, and various pcie based 802.11ac cards in the coming months, to tackle wifi part of the problem, but despite the unfortunate choice of marketing methods, am utterly delighted with them having been there at this bits and bytes. This was the best bits and bytes ever, IMHO, on every other front. > Best regards, > Richard > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com> > To: "Lisa Lorenzin" <llorenzin@pulsesecure.net> > Cc: "Rodriguez, Iben" <Iben.Rodriguez@spirent.com>; "Ondrej Filip" > <ondrej.filip@nic.cz>; <93attendees@ietf.org> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy > > >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Lisa Lorenzin <llorenzin@pulsesecure.net> >> wrote: >> >> Personally, if a lead developer / engineer at a Bits & Bytes demo was >> wearing heels, > > > I would not object to a pretty engineer - we need more of them. These gals > weren't engineers. That, at least for my part, was my concern. They were > there to attract nearby guys to the table. Life is too short for that. > > >> _______________________________________________ >> 93attendees mailing list >> 93attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees -- Dave Täht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast
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- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Pat (Patricia) Thaler
- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Warren Kumari
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- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Василий Долматов
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- Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy Ladislav Lhotka
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