Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 08:27 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:27:27 +0200
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Alia,

That must have been a particular issue for this hotel, becuase in most
other IETFs, the meeting rooms were opened up during the snack break for
the plenary.

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

> This IETF we had more WG meeting time requested than could be met.  With
> concern requested, the time requested did decrease.
>
> The plenaries are in the morning because it allows the rooms to be reset
> during lunch.  Having them in the evening would have eaten the meeting
> rooms for the time slot before the plenary which would have further
> decreased the available meeting time for WG meetings.
>
> I'm in the technical plenary now and it seems to be quite well attended.
>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also prefer going back to the plenaries at the end of the day. I
>> understand that having them in the morning is more convenient for the
>> hotel, but they're here to serve us, not vice versa.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Brian E Carpenter <
>>> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> And I agree with that as well! But the current long day, which for
>>> >> many includes breakfast meetings, runs 7am to [nearly] 8pm which
>>> >> probably does not contribute to overall productivity.
>>> >
>>> > As long as people want to arrive on Sunday and leave on Friday
>>> > afternoon, it's hard to see what to change.
>>>
>>> The two plenaries add up to 5 hours. If they didn’t take up real meeting
>>> time, we could shorten each meeting day by one hour.
>>>
>>> That would mean getting the plenaries back to the end of the day, and
>>> anyone who wanted an early dinner could skip them.
>>>
>>> But regardless, for “real IETF-ers”, the ones who don’t come for just a
>>> few sessions, an IETF week is always pretty intense.
>>>
>>> Yoav
>>>
>>>
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