Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net> Wed, 15 July 2015 17:24 UTC
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From: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
To: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:56:35PM -0400, Stephen Botzko wrote: > > > There is *nothing* in the Note Well (nor in the RFCs it references) about > > indemnification. > > Sure, but the note well does not explain why the IETF does it, and > why it has attendees accept it. > > s/idemnify/protect/ ? > > Speaking only as an individual, with my personal understanding, and foremost noting that I am not a lawyer: The "Note Well" statement tells participants that what they publicly say, write, sing and dance, etc in an IETF venue is considered a contribution to the IETF. This has some legal implications, including that the IETF has the right to publish those contributions. This is very much about copyrights, licensing, etc. The Note Well does not make any statements about indemnification. Whether the meaning of the Note Well and it's implications are beneficial or detrimental to any particular person or organization is an exercise left up to the individuals that contribute and/or make use of contributions. In my view, that very much depends on the specific circumstances. The IETF rules certainly don't take the place of IPR law, legal disputes, and all of that. That being said, if we are all "playing fair" with each other then it should encourage collaboration. Finally, as is typical in these kinds of things, it is often prudent to check with legal counsel if one has questions. Of course, the process of "checking with legal" is usually fraught with its own costs (financial and otherwise) and is therefore a choice best made by the individuals involved. :) Cheers, -Benson
- [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeti… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jari Arkko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randy Bush
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Benson Schliesser
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens