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Re: [93attendees] pocket knife in Prague

Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Sat, 11 July 2015 17:13 UTC

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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 10:12:57 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
To: "Carlos M. Martinez" <carlos@lacnic.net>
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Cc: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>, 93attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [93attendees] pocket knife in Prague
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With respect to carrying knifes on person/carry on the plane, 
i was trying to figure out what the rules are today:

When flying within the EU, regulation 185/2010 seems to only prohibit
knifes longer than 6 cm. Googling around, it seems airports randomnly 
come up with their own regulations though. The best story i read was
that seemingly my home airport in germany has pulled stunts like trying
to make travellers with a compliant knife miss planes by giving them a
runaround with a superviors who's searching the airport for a scale to
measure the 6 cm. Sorry, german:

http://knife-blog.com/2015/05/messer-im-flugzeug-zwischen-recht-und-realitaet/

Sounds to me as if the airports have no legal way to prohibit you to carry
those smaller knifes but they still do it. And in a letter from
the german secretary of the interior to a TV station, he made it sound like
the airport security MAY permit shorter knifes, but without giving any
reference to a legal rule why they could take that away: Sorry, german again:

http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/ratgeber/markt/sendungen/stellungnahme-bundesinnenministerium102.pdf

So i guess europe is practicing IDIC or security through obscurity.
How boring is the USA. Just go to TSA web page.

And for comic relief: 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/travel/united-pilot-ammunition/

Cheers
    Toerless

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 01:03:43PM -0300, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
> Been there :-)
> 
> A few years ago I had to drop a swiss army knife in the big acrylic box
> at SCL's security checkpoint because I forgot to move it to the checked bag.
> 
> On 7/11/15 10:34 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
> > On 11 Jul 2015, at 17:07, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> >
> >> Every real man is supposed to have a knife in his pocket.
> > Except when he goes through security at the airport.
> >
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> > Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
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