Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy

Alexandre PETRESCU <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> Fri, 24 July 2015 19:11 UTC

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dress code: should the models be dressed in national costumes, or local 
code, would that be more acceptable?

Alex

Le 24/07/2015 12:37, Rodriguez, Iben a écrit :
> Of course there are 2 sides to every story.  I’ve had to deal with 
> this as a parent of teen age daughters who are experiencing this type 
> of reverse discrimination based on the way they dress at school.  If a 
> teacher were to tell them their clothing style is distracting to the 
> boys in the class we have a talk with that teacher there, and the 
> boys.  Unfortunately the girls need to deal with this too but the 
> world is changing.
>
> I came to the conference for the first time with a suit coat and 
> jacket ready to dress up as if for a business meeting. When I checked 
> in I see everyone in t-shirts and shorts. This is great!
>
> Let’s not pass judgement on someone’s role or respectful dress 
> situation these days. It goes both ways.
>
> Our efforts should be on improving the rights for those that are truly 
> oppressed by their cultural situation.
>
> Are we seriously thinking of instituting a dress code policy for these 
> events? How would it read?  Let’s not go down this road.
>
>
> On 7/24/15, 11:35 AM, "93attendees on behalf of Ondrej Filip" 
> <93attendees-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org> on 
> behalf of ondrej.filip@nic.cz <mailto:ondrej.filip@nic.cz>> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> First of all let me to apologize everybody who felt offended. I am
> really sorry for that we did something unfortunate and as a CEO of the
> company I take the full responsibility.
>
> Please, let me explain the background. Those ladies have been working
> with CZ.NIC for a longer time although not as full time employees.
> But I am telling this to explain that they we have not employed them
> just for the purpose of this event. Both have university degrees
> although not a technical background in IETF related stuff. But they
> know our company very well.
>
> Again, I fully understand the point and I apologize for our lack of
> sensitivity. I am very sorry.
>
> Ondrej Filip
>
>
>
> On 24.7.2015 10:31, Jose Saldana wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>     In my opinion, the bits&bytes booth with the young ladies in short
>     skirts, etc. was a bit... let's say ... disrespectful.
>     I mean, using women just for "decorative" purposes is something I
>     don't like. It is common in trade fairs, sports events, etc. But
>     the IETF should avoid it (IMHO).
>     Best regards,
>     Jose
>     Sent from my smartphone
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