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Re: [96attendees] Please stop killing trees with pre-printed agendas

Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> Mon, 25 July 2016 11:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [96attendees] Please stop killing trees with pre-printed agendas
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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2016, Pat Thaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Both the AQM and Transport Area Working Group displayed on my iPhone (as did other cases of two groups meeting in the same slot/room.
>> 
>> http://imgur.com/a/uyhcG is what it looks like on my screen (just made that screen shot).
>> 
>> The web agenda says for the friday 10-12 slot (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda.html):
>> 
>> Bellevue	tsv	aqm	Active Queue Management and Packet Scheduling Shared slot with TSVWG - Moved from Friday 12:20
>> Bellevue	tsv	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group
>> 
>> So it's probably as Tom stated, there are now two meeting scheduled in the same room for the same time, instead of having two slots (10-11 and 11-12) with two different sessions in the same room.
> 
> I just realised that on my phone, it shows tsvwg at 10-12 and AQM at 1220-1320. After switching to IETF95 and then to IETF96 again, it does indeed show both meetings along each other, correctly.
> 
> So I guess my app didn't have the scheduling change.
> 

Yes, there are still some lingering sync problems. From the screenshot, the blank entry at the top is a symptom of syncing trouble. I hope to have that resolved with either a new API or better error handling for the next meeting. The app isn’t reacting well to timeouts and 403 errors.

Thanks,
Tom

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