Re: [97attendees] Unusual sponsor for IETF

Alexandre PETRESCU <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> Thu, 17 November 2016 02:03 UTC

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Yes, live surgery on dummy subjects over the Internet was demonstrated 
in a transatlantic setting to illustrate the low-latency afforded by 
optical links new at that time.

But to clarify: the poster featured in this thread is a Korea 
advertisement, not a bits-and-bytes kind of sponsoring.  They advertise 
that to tell to come to Korea to do it here, because there are some 
advantages.  Today the advertisement is about stem cells and hearing 
aids - I have only seen it here.

Along the same lines: go to Hungary for dental matters - they are cheap 
and good.

Similarly, legislation differences also has it to prefer e.g. 
Switzerland, Belgium, America, for end-of-life matters, stem cell and 
pregnancy alternatives respectively.

Alex

Le 17/11/2016 à 03:05, Colin Perkins a écrit :
>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 01:54, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>
>> You'd be surprised.
>>
>> If memory serves me right, we had in the mid 90th lasik surgery
>> shown via Mbone, and a few years later my university stated this
>> remote live open heart surgery with remote consultation.
> There were several surgery demos shown via the Mbone, as I recall.
>
> A project deliverable summarising one of them is at http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/projects/merci/deliverables/d12.2/d12_2.html if anyone’s interested in the technology of the day (contains one screenshot, but it’s a monochrome capture from an H.261 video, so there’s little unpleasantness to see…)
>
> Colin
>
>
>
>> Heck, we should have done the IETF VPx vs. h26x codec contest with remote
>> live video surgery. Winner is where the patient survives the surgery
>> with the lowest bitrate.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 05:20:50PM +0900, Michal Krsek wrote:
>>> We can provide you a lot of such as demos (including prosthatic,
>>> dental and so on) in 3D HD or 4K in Prague (as we are doing this for
>>> medical events), but be sure, you do NOT want to watch this content.
>>>
>>>                     MK
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/11/2016 16:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>>>> Will we have a demo? Live surgery during Bits-and-Bites?
>>>>
>>>>
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