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Re: [abfab] Direction Forward for aaa-saml

Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> Wed, 22 July 2015 16:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [abfab] Direction Forward for aaa-saml
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On 2015-07-22 18:36, Cantor, Scott wrote:
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> On 7/22/15, 12:31 PM, "Sam Hartman" <hartmans@painless-security.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> "Cantor," == Cantor, Scott <cantor.2@osu.edu> writes:
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>>    Cantor,> Leif's point is that if you don't specify any bindings, you
>>    Cantor,> won't have any interop issue. But if you don't account for
>>    Cantor,> the endpoint element(s) in the schema, you can't add them
>>    Cantor,> later.
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>> O, that's irritating.
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> Well, it's not an absolute, you could do extensions to get them in later, but it's annoying to have to do that if you actually have a technical rationale for defining an endpoint type up front. It's better to just do it so it's a well-defined element and not buried inside an extension.
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> Of course, you can make them minOccurs="0" initially so they're optional and don't matter for now.


That was my thought

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