Re: [abfab] Direction Forward for aaa-saml

"Cantor, Scott" <cantor.2@osu.edu> Wed, 22 July 2015 22:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [abfab] Direction Forward for aaa-saml
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On 7/22/15, 5:28 PM, "abfab on behalf of Alejandro Pérez Méndez" <abfab-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of alex@um.es> wrote:



>in addition to add the new elements to the RADIUSIDPDescriptor and 
>RADIUSRPDescriptor subtypes to include the naming information, we can 
>keep the RADIUSIDPService and RADIUSRPService elements that I already 
>defined (of type EndpointType, with minOccurs="0"), as a provision for 
>the future use of locators/endpoints. We don't need to specify the 
>specific URI format yet. Am I correct?

I think so.

>I have an additional question though. Leif mentioned that the URI format 
>of the Locator attribute will be determined by the value of the Binding 
>attribute, which is true. But, since in this document and section we are 
>specifically defining the "urn:ietf:params:abfab:bindings:radius" 
>Binding, shouldn't it be fixed to that value?

No, you wouldn't constrain the Binding even if you were defining the whole thing now, that would preclude extensibility later.

There's no need to, any Binding value somebody doesn't understand is just ignored.

-- Scott