Re: [abfab] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 05 January 2016 19:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [abfab] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hiya,

On 05/01/16 18:39, Alissa Cooper wrote:
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> DISCUSS:
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> Regarding Section 4.3.3, do we typically use IETF documents to
> normatively extend OASIS specs? Wanted to check since we try to keep an
> eye on this kind of thing when other SDOs extend/alter IETF specs.

Yes, various folks involved in OASIS SAML work reviewed this.
I think the last was Scott Cantor, who's secretary of the OASIS
security services TC that does SAML. I think we're good on that
and it's just using planned extensibility points.

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> And relatedly, the document's intended status is listed in the header as
> Standards Track but the shepherd write-up says: 
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> "Informational. It could be experimental as well, but since the
> specification of various SAML constructs lies outside the realm of the
> IETF and the definition of the 2 RADIUS attributes is not really
> experimental, informational seems the right classification."
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> So I'm wondering what is going on with that.

My fault. The document was initially last called as Informational,
but as a result of comments received folks wanted PS. I re-did the
last call (no further comments received) but neglected to update
the writeup.

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> The use of normative MAYs in Section 9 does not seem appropriate.

The authors/shepherd can handle that:-)

Cheers,
S.


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