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Re: [abfab] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> Tue, 05 January 2016 19:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [abfab] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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>>
>> Regarding Section 4.3.3, do we typically use IETF documents to
>> normatively extend OASIS specs? Wanted to check since we try to keep an
>> eye on this kind of thing when other SDOs extend/alter IETF specs.
> 
> Yes, various folks involved in OASIS SAML work reviewed this.
> I think the last was Scott Cantor, who's secretary of the OASIS
> security services TC that does SAML. I think we're good on that
> and it's just using planned extensibility points.

Scott was very clear that there is very little energy left in the SSTC
so the chance to get stuff done over there was very slight. Hence we
kept it all in the IETF.

Also this is partly about Radius so at least those bits would have
needed to stay as RFCs anyway.

	Cheers Leif

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