Re: IP Accounting & Charge Back Methodolgies & Approaches
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Subject: Re: IP Accounting & Charge Back Methodolgies & Approaches
> The archive of the aewg-accounting mailing list is available > on aarnet.edu.au (I think under /aewg somewhere). We've been > discussing the subject... I apologize for that informal response. I didn't notice the Reply-to header (again). Perhaps having distracted everyone on this list with that terse and inaccurate note I should make a few comments about our deliberations to date. First comment is that the correct location for the archive is ftp://aarnet.edu.au/pub/aewg/aewg-accounting. You can join the mailing list by sending mail to aewg-accounting-request@aarnet.edu.au. Remember if you join that we are discussing Australian not general charging and accounting issues. There are a couple of things that makes AARNet different to a network in America. The first is that a very significant component of our costs is the international link. A lot has been said about the value of connecting networks on an equal basis but it does break down in this situation. Clearly the rest of the world is a lot bigger than us so we use a lot more services in the rest of the world than the rest of the world uses in Australia. So it seems fair that we should pay the majority of the cost of the link that joins us to the world. On the other hand it doesn't seem entirely fair that we should pay all of it. However that is the way things are. Since upgrading the international link is extremely expensive we need to make sure that users (at least at the organization level) get some cost feed-back based on their usage of the link. This also seems the right way to fund increases in the link bandwidth, rather than raising the costs of major and minor users of the link alike. Beyond that interstate links are also expensive in Australia. So the AARNet board has decided that AARNet will move to a usage-based charging scheme. The aewg-accounting group was not established to advise the board. Rather it is a self-formed group to look at technical issues of various user-pays schemes. We figured that if we had something sensible to say it would have some influence indirectly and this may have happened. A proposal that has high-level support is to keep the cost of connecting to AARNet to a minimum (more or less cost) and raise most revenue by charging wide area traffic by total received bytes. Charging the recipient has two big wins: 1. It protects the service providers. The people providing free services are the life-blood of the network and we don't want to discourage them. And we want commercial service providers to connect at the minimum possible cost. 2. The packet recipient is the beneficiary of the transfer with high probability. Charging the recipient works out about right in practice. Recent discussion has been on various possible problems with this proposal. Of course there are a lot of aspects of this which are not specific to Australia and could reasonably be discussed on this more general mailing list. If you like I will post a (biased) summary of the identified problems and suggested solutions, but this message is long enough. Bob Smart