Re: [Ace] Call for adoption of draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm

"Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)" <> Thu, 06 December 2018 21:19 UTC

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+1. I think this is a problem that needs to be solved.

But I do think that the OAuth or PubSub requirement is a strong one. I would like to see if the MLS work could be used in these environments too Using the OAuth draft or the PubSub one for authorization and group join is fine, but there will be environments where that will not be possible, so I was wondering if could be leveraged.


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I support the adoption of this draft.
It is the right solution to our secure group communication wishes.


Roman Danyliw schreef op 2018-11-30 22:58:

This is the start of a two week call for input on the WG adoption of the document:


The document has been presented and discussed at the last few meetings; and revisions have been made based on WG feedback.  At the IETF 103 meeting, there was support for adoption; and volunteers to review and implement the draft.

Please provide feedback to the list/chairs if you believe that this document should be adopted as a WG document.    The adoption call will end on December 14 2018.

Roman and Jim

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