Re: [Ace] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-ace-cbor-web-token-12

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Tue, 27 February 2018 14:54 UTC

Return-Path: <kaduk@mit.edu>
X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A680512DA09; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 06:54:38 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.211
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2U_T5oVYRdBk; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 06:54:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu [18.9.25.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 197AF12DA13; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 06:54:30 -0800 (PST)
X-AuditID: 1209190c-4f3ff700000016ae-44-5a957125a6f0
Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 68.31.05806.521759A5; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:54:29 -0500 (EST)
Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id w1REsSLX004323; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:54:29 -0500
Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id w1REsOlw031981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:54:26 -0500
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:54:24 -0600
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com>
Cc: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>, gen-art <gen-art@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-ace-cbor-web-token.all@ietf.org, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>, ace@ietf.org
Message-ID: <20180227145424.GV50954@kduck.kaduk.org>
References: <151967178760.21771.14005895812023525211@ietfa.amsl.com> <021201d3af3e$1f204cc0$5d60e640$@augustcellars.com> <CAFgnS4USoaMrDSbvOZj4Pwg3DprMNNxrHoPn+DK-YjVNB-Jrog@mail.gmail.com> <20180227034009.GT50954@kduck.kaduk.org> <CAFgnS4VJDs0Xm2zFG5jXQ3eTC0umNvLxBmkLzQKzbPARZq1RVA@mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <CAFgnS4VJDs0Xm2zFG5jXQ3eTC0umNvLxBmkLzQKzbPARZq1RVA@mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22)
X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupnleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IR4hTV1lUtnBplsH+HscX3bz3MFlt3P2a1 aHysZXH11WcWi9XTv7NZPNs4n8WBzWPjnOlsHjtn3WX3WLLkJ1MAcxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJX xoF5x5gKFnBULLt6j7GBcTtbFyMnh4SAicS6V2+Zuhi5OIQEFjNJfPo/jxnC2cgo0b3lGBNI lZDAVSaJ092mIDaLgKrExVcgRZwcbAIqEg3dl8FsEQE1iW2PX4NNYhZYyigxd+82sISwgK9E y5J+1i5GDg5eoHU/F6tCLNjMJNHQ+pwVpIZXQFDi5MwnLCA2s4CWxI1/L5lA6pkFpCWW/+MA CXMKBEr03OoHu0dUQFlib98h9gmMArOQdM9C0j0LoXsBI/MqRtmU3Crd3MTMnOLUZN3i5MS8 vNQiXUO93MwSvdSU0k2M4LCW5NnBeOaN1yFGAQ5GJR7ejOypUUKsiWXFlbmHGCU5mJREeeNl gUJ8SfkplRmJxRnxRaU5qcWHGCU4mJVEeFcunhwlxJuSWFmVWpQPk5LmYFES53U30Y4SEkhP LEnNTk0tSC2CycpwcChJ8F4pABoqWJSanlqRlplTgpBm4uAEGc4DNHwfSA1vcUFibnFmOkT+ FKMux40Xr9uYhVjy8vNSpcR5H+QDFQmAFGWU5sHNAaUjiez9Na8YxYHeEuZdCTKKB5jK4Ca9 AlrCBLTkyOcpIEtKEhFSUg2MS4J3XTc/mvEoauWn5srVUj0vxJSm3bj7oTVml+U1Tmmm/ba2 v0z2SDV91d5fu/xbacc3Bk7fOVM/lmo/2rj848JTwUIX01eFPDgb0X37+zchn57aDJUfwQx5 0v/Lpm1YoWrSOEfmyb+HiXv3nZ8qqTJZ73+9K7vbQv97M56FfMkTulPF/u50gxJLcUaioRZz UXEiAE8knUkiAwAA
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/JQK6IK51RaEOVs3LLvD-Qkxs3-Y>
Subject: Re: [Ace] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-ace-cbor-web-token-12
X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" <ace.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ace>, <mailto:ace-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ace/>
List-Post: <mailto:ace@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ace-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace>, <mailto:ace-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:54:39 -0000

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:59:50AM +0200, Dan Romascanu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> See also my other notes.
> 
> I believe that what the document tries to say is:
> 
> Register R is divided into four different ranges R1, R2, R3, R4 (defining
> the value limits may be useful)
> 
> Values in range R1 are allocated according to policy P1 in the case that ...
> Values in range R2 are allocated according to policy P2 in the case that ...
> Values in range R3 are allocated according to policy P3 in the case that ...
> Values in range R4 are allocated according to policy P4 in the case that ...
> 
> But it doesn't say it. Mentioning four concurrent policies for the same
> registry without separation of values range, and without providing clear
> instructions when each policy is recommended to be used, seems confusing to
> me, and may be confusing for users of this document in the future.

I agree, and such a change is slated to be in the next rev of the
document.  Sorry for spending so much text to be in violent
agreement...

-Ben