[Ace] Charter discussion
Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 15 October 2020 17:48 UTC
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Subject: [Ace] Charter discussion
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Hi, I would like to start the charter discussion. Here is a draft of a proposed charter [1]. It seems to be that additional discussion is needed with regard to the last paragraph related certificate management. In particular the discussion might revive a discussion that happened in 2017 [2] - when I was not co-chair of ACE -and considered other expired work such as [3]. Please make this discussion constructive on this thread. The fundamental question is whether we need certificate management at this stage. If the answer is yes, and we have multiple proposals, it would be good to clarify the position of the different proposals and evaluate whether a selection is needed or not before validating the charter. Please provide your inputs on the mailing list before October 30. Of course for minor edits, you may suggest them directly on the google doc. Yours, Daniel [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RtxUSvUeBdZWoQkjSj2c3DtR8DuBwPM2BnBXhoDiptY/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2017-ace-03-201710191300/ [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-eals/ -- Daniel Migault Ericsson
- [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Göran Selander
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Michael Richardson
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Göran Selander
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Brockhaus, Hendrik
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Göran Selander
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Benjamin Kaduk
- [Ace] Proposed charter for ACE Daniel Migault
- [Ace] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?) Dan Garcia
- Re: [Ace] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP… Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Laurent Toutain
- Re: [Ace] [Emu] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ove… Mohit Sethi M
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Göran Selander
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Olaf Bergmann
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Brockhaus, Hendrik
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Daniel Migault
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Ace] Charter discussion Brockhaus, Hendrik
- Re: [Ace] [Emu] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (… Dan Garcia
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Dan Garcia
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Alexander Pelov
- Re: [Ace] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Dan Garcia
- Re: [Ace] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP… Georgios PAPADOPOULOS
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Dan Garcia Carrillo
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Dan Garcia Carrillo
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP ov… Dan Garcia