Re: [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Thu, 24 May 2018 14:37 UTC

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On May 24, 2018, at 16:15, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Trying to finalize this discussion: Could we do an early registry of the Content-Format numbers?

Yes.
 
> From the discussion so far I believe we concluded that the charset is utf-8

What charset?  I thought we don’t have parameters (see below).

> and that there are no parameters. Is that correct?

That is my understanding so far, but the point of me asking the question was to ask the actual experts about these media types.  Did we get that input?

Next step: make a proposal and raise this on core-parameters@ietf.org so we get the needed input from the designated expert.

Grüße, Carsten


>  
> Ciao
> Hannes
>  
> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org] 
> Sent: 16 May 2018 12:30
> To: Hannes Tschofenig
> Cc: ace@ietf.org; core
> Subject: Re: [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
>  
> Forgot to add another example: the content-format numbers for COSE have parameters. 
> 
> Sent from mobile
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> On 16. May 2018, at 12:26, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
> I was thinking about media type parameters such as charset="utf-8". The RT value need to be registered separately, but we can be a bit lazy about that. 
> 
> Sent from mobile
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> On 16. May 2018, at 12:15, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carsten,
> 
> Yes, I am talking about the Content-Format numbers for them.
> Would rt="ace.est" be the parameter you are talking about?
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]
> Sent: 15 May 2018 11:45
> To: Hannes Tschofenig
> Cc: ace@ietf.org; core
> Subject: Re: [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
> 
> On May 15, 2018, at 10:56, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> I am curious whether it would be possible to ask for early media-type registration of at least these two types:
> - application/pkcs7-mime
> - application/pkcs10
> 
> There already are registered.
> 
> I think you are talking about getting Content-Format numbers for these?
> Do we need any parameters or content-codings with that?
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
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