Re: [Ace] Call for adoption of draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Thu, 06 December 2018 23:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ace] Call for adoption of draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm
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I have not looked in detail at the mls protocol documents, but from what I remember they have more or less skipped the entire AAA question of having a central authorizer and made it so that any entity which is currently active has the ability to add or remove anybody else.

 

That is not currently an authorization model that I think is currently in scope for ACE.  If I am wrong about my assumptions it would be interesting to know.

 

Jim

 

 

From: Ace <ace-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Call for adoption of draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm

 

+1. I think this is a problem that needs to be solved. 

 

But I do think that the OAuth or PubSub requirement is a strong one. I would like to see if the MLS work could be used in these environments too https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mls-protocol/ Using the OAuth draft or the PubSub one for authorization and group join is fine, but there will be environments where that will not be possible, so I was wondering if https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-02 could be leveraged. 

 

Rgs,

Panos

 

From: Ace <ace-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org> > On Behalf Of Peter van der Stok
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Call for adoption of draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm

 

I support the adoption of this draft.
It is the right solution to our secure group communication wishes.

Peter

Roman Danyliw schreef op 2018-11-30 22:58:

Hello!

This is the start of a two week call for input on the WG adoption of the document:

draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palombini-ace-key-groupcomm-02

The document has been presented and discussed at the last few meetings; and revisions have been made based on WG feedback.  At the IETF 103 meeting, there was support for adoption; and volunteers to review and implement the draft. 

Please provide feedback to the list/chairs if you believe that this document should be adopted as a WG document.    The adoption call will end on December 14 2018.

Regards,
Roman and Jim

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