Re: [Ace] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with COMMENT)

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To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: [Ace] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Alissa, 

Thank you for the feedback. 

> "It is also RECOMMENDED that the Implicit Trust Anchor database used
> for EST server authentication is carefully managed to reduce the
> chance of a third-party CA with poor certification practices
> jeopardizing authentication."
> 
> This strikes me as a slightly odd use of normative language (what are the exception cases when the trust anchor database should not be carefully managed?).
> 

The blurb is directly from RFC7030. We reiterate it here to point it out as a best practice and then we present a potential deviation from it for constrained environments. 

To avoid this confusion we can rephrase it as 

    As discussed in Section 6 of [RFC7030], it is 
   "RECOMMENDED that the Implicit Trust Anchor database used
   for EST server authentication is carefully managed to reduce the
   chance of a third-party CA with poor certification practices
   jeopardizing authentication.  Disabling the Implicit Trust Anchor
   database after successfully receiving the Distribution of CA
   certificates response (Section 4.1.3 of [RFC7030]) limits any risk to
   the first DTLS exchange." [...]

Rgs, 
Panos


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Subject: [Ace] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with COMMENT)

Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: No Objection

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COMMENT:
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Section 10.1:

"It is also RECOMMENDED that the Implicit Trust Anchor database used
   for EST server authentication is carefully managed to reduce the
   chance of a third-party CA with poor certification practices
   jeopardizing authentication."

This strikes me as a slightly odd use of normative language (what are the exception cases when the trust anchor database should not be carefully managed?).


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