Re: [Ace] [core] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 19 June 2018 12:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ace] [core] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
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Since the registry that we are registering into does not fulfill the preconditions of RFC 7120 Section 2 point (a), I think the next step is to send the registration to IANA using the protocol parameters form [1].  The application should reference the I-D as well as the message from the DE [2] — there will be another interaction between IANA and DE and then we should be done.  To do so without further friction, the I-D probably should have been updated to align with [2].

[1]: https://www.iana.org/form/protocol-assignment
[2]: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/core-parameters/current/msg00024.html

Grüße, Carsten

> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:40, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>; wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Did this registration attempt got concluded?
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter van der Stok [mailto:stokcons@xs4all.nl]
> Sent: 24 May 2018 15:55
> To: Carsten Bormann
> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; core; ace@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [core] [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
> 
> Ok, I will raise the experts to-morrow.
> 
> Peter
> 
> Carsten Bormann schreef op 2018-05-24 16:37:
>> On May 24, 2018, at 16:15, Hannes Tschofenig
>> <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>; wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Trying to finalize this discussion: Could we do an early registry of
>>> the Content-Format numbers?
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> From the discussion so far I believe we concluded that the charset is
>>> utf-8
>> 
>> What charset?  I thought we don’t have parameters (see below).
>> 
>>> and that there are no parameters. Is that correct?
>> 
>> That is my understanding so far, but the point of me asking the
>> question was to ask the actual experts about these media types.  Did
>> we get that input?
>> 
>> Next step: make a proposal and raise this on core-parameters@ietf.org
>> so we get the needed input from the designated expert.
>> 
>> Grüße, Carsten
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> 
>>> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]
>>> Sent: 16 May 2018 12:30
>>> To: Hannes Tschofenig
>>> Cc: ace@ietf.org; core
>>> Subject: Re: [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
>>> 
>>> Forgot to add another example: the content-format numbers for COSE
>>> have parameters.
>>> 
>>> Sent from mobile
>>> 
>>> On 16. May 2018, at 12:26, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>; wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was thinking about media type parameters such as charset="utf-8".
>>> The RT value need to be registered separately, but we can be a bit
>>> lazy about that.
>>> 
>>> Sent from mobile
>>> 
>>> On 16. May 2018, at 12:15, Hannes Tschofenig
>>> <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>; wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I am talking about the Content-Format numbers for them.
>>> Would rt="ace.est" be the parameter you are talking about?
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]
>>> Sent: 15 May 2018 11:45
>>> To: Hannes Tschofenig
>>> Cc: ace@ietf.org; core
>>> Subject: Re: [Ace] Early media-type registration for EST over CoAP
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2018, at 10:56, Hannes Tschofenig
>>> <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>; wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am curious whether it would be possible to ask for early media-type
>>> registration of at least these two types:
>>> - application/pkcs7-mime
>>> - application/pkcs10
>>> 
>>> There already are registered.
>>> 
>>> I think you are talking about getting Content-Format numbers for
>>> these?
>>> Do we need any parameters or content-codings with that?
>>> 
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>> 
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