Re: [Acme] dns-01 challenge limitations

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 13 September 2020 20:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Acme] dns-01 challenge limitations
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Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
    >> For now, this is for many ACME clients a manual step. If you run your
    >> authoritative DNS service locally in your network, perhaps you could
    >> look into any options for automatically update the zone content.

    > I agree a standardized API for DNS operators would be nice, but it's a
    > pretty massive task. I don't see this happening anytime soon, no matter
    > how hard I try.

    > For this reason, I think a different approach would be desirable.

So, "DNS operators" are not the same thing as "DNS Registrars".
Many places do both, and many there is a generation of people who don't know
that they are different things.  Who think that the only way to manage zones
is through a web interface?
I think we have an education problem, not a standards problem.

DNS AXFR and IXFR has been around for a long long time.
RFC3007 is also widely implemented.
They are widely used by the majority of DNS operators, at very significant scale.

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