Re: [Acme] NYTimes.com: How Do You Stop Robocalls?

Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net> Mon, 12 July 2021 18:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Acme] NYTimes.com: How Do You Stop Robocalls?
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I know of a couple, including the one i work for :)

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> wrote:
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> For what has been implemented right now (i.e., basic calls), all the specifications are RFCs.  AFAIK no one has implemented ACME for certificate management (yet).
> 
> Regards,
> Mary.
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:59 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
> Linked from today’s front page of The New York Times:
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>  
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> How Do You Stop Robocalls?
> 
> An F.C.C. rule that went into effect last month is meant to help put a stop to those relentless calls about your extended warranty, and others.
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/article/stop-robocalls-scam-fcc.html?smid=em-share <https://www.nytimes.com/article/stop-robocalls-scam-fcc.html?smid=em-share>
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> It talks about Shaken/Stir by name a couple of times.  Someone want to tell the reporter there are still IESG issues that needs be resolved?
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