Re: [Acme] Current Charter language

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Fri, 15 May 2015 19:20 UTC

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Cc: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "acme@ietf.org" <acme@ietf.org>, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
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On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>;
wrote:

>
>
> On 15/05/15 19:38, Ted Hardie wrote:
>
>  On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Stephen Farrell <
> stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>; wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 15/05/15 19:09, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> >> Any other obvious edits needed?
>> >
>> > LGTM
>>
>> (no hats)
>>
>> Me too. I like it and figure it's good enough.
>>
>> The only thing I'd suggest maybe adding is the illustrative goal
>> that an "apt-get install apache" should be able to get the required
>> certificates for a web server automatically, if there is an acme
>> server that is willing to automate that far. And that a subsequent
>> "apt-get upgrade" on that box should ensure that the certificate
>> stuff needed for that apache install gets renewed if necessary.
>>
>>  I can see that it might be tricky to phrase that in language
>> that works in a charter though, but maybe someone's feeling nicely
>> creative.
>>
>>
> ​ Well, at the moment we says this:
>
> "All of the processing must be done in a manner that is compatible
> with common service deployment environments, such as hosting
> environments.​"
>
>  Perhaps we can add something just after like this:
>
>  "Simplicity in certificate installation and maintenance are
>  key design goals.  Enabling this process to be incorporated
>  into the standard installation and upgrades of web servers
>  via a single command line invocation or flag would be
>  especially desirable".
>
>  That's less catchy than "apt-get install acme-cert", but it
>  may be more charter-y.
>
>  Is that worth doing?
>
> I like it anyway. I'm fine if you'd prefer to go ahead without
> it though,
>

I like the charter better without it, tbh.  I don't think there's any
ambiguity in what we're after in this dimension :)


> S.
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>    Ted
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>> The reason to want this in (for me) is that I think that example
>> can ground the work and be useful to head off some potential rat
>> holes that might otherwise crop up. And it captures the by far
>> most important requirement for acme to meet which is good to keep
>> in front of us.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S
>>
>> >
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