Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Fri, 15 May 2015 19:20 UTC
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Cc: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "acme@ietf.org" <acme@ietf.org>, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Acme] Current Charter language
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On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > > On 15/05/15 19:38, Ted Hardie wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Stephen Farrell < > stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > >> >> >> On 15/05/15 19:09, Salz, Rich wrote: >> >> Any other obvious edits needed? >> > >> > LGTM >> >> (no hats) >> >> Me too. I like it and figure it's good enough. >> >> The only thing I'd suggest maybe adding is the illustrative goal >> that an "apt-get install apache" should be able to get the required >> certificates for a web server automatically, if there is an acme >> server that is willing to automate that far. And that a subsequent >> "apt-get upgrade" on that box should ensure that the certificate >> stuff needed for that apache install gets renewed if necessary. >> >> I can see that it might be tricky to phrase that in language >> that works in a charter though, but maybe someone's feeling nicely >> creative. >> >> > Well, at the moment we says this: > > "All of the processing must be done in a manner that is compatible > with common service deployment environments, such as hosting > environments." > > Perhaps we can add something just after like this: > > "Simplicity in certificate installation and maintenance are > key design goals. Enabling this process to be incorporated > into the standard installation and upgrades of web servers > via a single command line invocation or flag would be > especially desirable". > > That's less catchy than "apt-get install acme-cert", but it > may be more charter-y. > > Is that worth doing? > > I like it anyway. I'm fine if you'd prefer to go ahead without > it though, > I like the charter better without it, tbh. I don't think there's any ambiguity in what we're after in this dimension :) > S. > > Ted > > > > >> The reason to want this in (for me) is that I think that example >> can ground the work and be useful to head off some potential rat >> holes that might otherwise crop up. And it captures the by far >> most important requirement for acme to meet which is good to keep >> in front of us. >> >> Cheers, >> S >> >> > >> > -- >> > Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies >> > IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Acme mailing list >> > Acme@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Acme mailing list > Acme@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme > >
- [Acme] Current Charter language Ted Hardie
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Salz, Rich
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Martin Thomson
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Ted Hardie
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Richard Barnes
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language ⌘ Matt Miller
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language stephen.farrell
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Randy Bush
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Russ Housley
- Re: [Acme] Current Charter language Phillip Hallam-Baker