Re: [Acme] draft-ietf-acme

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 12 August 2015 18:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Acme] draft-ietf-acme
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On 12 August 2015 at 11:18, Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> wrote:
> It represents a conceptual misuse of digital signatures, and seems to me
> like a very fundamental design flaw which is easily addressed. I'm confused
> why you don't want to address it before adopting the draft.

If we set a precondition on adoption that said "no open issues" or
maybe even "no open issues that I think are serious" we would never
ever adopt anything.