Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Wed, 24 July 2019 19:10 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:09:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:41 AM Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:

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> On 24 Jul 2019, at 19:36, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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> What dialog box?
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> This one (MacOSX). I understand similar functionality is available on
> other platforms.
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Yes. We're focusing on the common case in which people do not use this
dialog box.

-Ekr