Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Wed, 24 July 2019 03:17 UTC
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From: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
CC: Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com>, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>, "add@ietf.org" <add@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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I appreciate the feedback. If I bring an I-D it will be more broad than this particular point. The point of “DNS filtering isn’t dead” is small potatoes compared to the larger “how we can collaborate as ecosystem components on providing the most ideal DNS experience” I think we’re all trying to go for. I’m listening and participating on these threads to see if I can even convince myself of such a draft. Thanks, Tommy ________________________________ From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 8:02:42 PM To: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Cc: Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com>; Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>; add@ietf.org <add@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:57 PM Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com<mailto:Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>> wrote: I don’t agree that the email was “incoherent” as it pointed out the flaw in insisting that DNS filtering is a dead technology, the conflict being that DNS tampering is effective enough by bad actors to deserve work and attention but not effective enough by good actors to deserve consideration. Ah, now this sounds like a good idea for an Internet-Draft. Why not write up this idea? That way, it can be evaluated outside of a message thread. thanks, Rob
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