Re: [Add] meeting hum: should the IETF take up this work?

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 23 July 2019 22:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Add] meeting hum: should the IETF take up this work?
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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:46 PM STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> wrote:

> That’s like saying IETF should never have published BCP 38.
>

Is it?


> IETF absolutely is the right place to discuss
>

 Yes, it is. But that doesn't mean a WG or a BCP should result.


> But I don’t think they have the operational experience/knowledge to fully
> understand what might happen in various access networks (especially mobile
> networks) if they started defaulting all their application users to DNS
> servers outside the local (ISP, enterprise, university, etc.) network.
>

I don't think DoH implies this impending doom. Carriers can already control
networking in many ways (e.g. preventing/allowing tethering), so it just
seems like a new negotiation point in a business discussion (that I am in
no way part of).

The bottom line is this: the IETF has been unable to secure DNS in a
successful way for 31 years. I think people are losing patience.

thanks,
Rob