Re: [Add] ADD Calls for WF Adoption

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Fri, 29 October 2021 09:49 UTC

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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 20:49:15 +1100
From: "Martin Thomson" <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Add] ADD Calls for WF Adoption
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For clarity.

I said that the deployment considerations shouldn't be published.  Having read more feedback, I am now more of the opinion that it would also be a waste of time adopting it.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, at 15:11, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Let me start by saying that I don't agree with a number
> of your assertions here, in particular about the requirements
> for adoption. While it's not *simply* a matter of numbers,
> having a reasonable level of support is in fact necessary
> for consensus.
>
> However, before we debate those, let's start by getting to common
> facts. I believe Tommy wrote you with concerns about both drafts, but
> let's start with draft-boucadair-add-deployment-considerations.
>
> I have provided you with a list of the people expressing each
> position. Your message lists Jim Reid and Diego Lopez.  I am unable to
> find a message indicating support for this draft from Diego though did
> find one from Jim Reid. However, in that search I also find a message
> somewhat opposing adoption from Martin Thomson (I belive he is opposed
> so I'm sure I can arrange for a more direct message if you like).
>
> So, can you please provide links to the messages from people who
> are in support of this draft?
>
> -Ekr
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 8:57 AM Deen, Glenn 
> <Glenn_Deen=40comcast.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> Hi ADD,____
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>> I wanted to bring to the ADD Group’s attention that 2 documents have entered into CALL for WG Adoption in the last couple of days:____
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>>  1. Draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns/____
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>>  1. Draft-boucadair-add-deployment-considerations https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-add-deployment-considerations/____
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>> Both drafts are material that has had good discussion both on list and during past ADD meetings so please consult the archive and meeting minutes, especially IETF110 and IETF111 if you need additional background.____
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>> Both are in a 2 week call for adoption, with the first ending on Oct 26,2021 and the second on Oct 27,2021.____
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>> Please respond on list with comments on these calls.____
>> __ __
>> Regards____
>> Glenn____
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