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Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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This is a good point; there are valid reasons why 1.1.1.1 can be the right provider for some users. Please allow me to clarify some possible misunderstandings.

I’m not against DoH.
I’m not against privacy and security.
I’m not against user choice.

These are all valuable things we should strive for. Let’s do it in a way that works for everyone, by identifying and documenting best practice.

Chris

From: Add <add-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Sent: 24 July 2019 06:19
To: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>; add@ietf.org; Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com>; Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

[snip]

Tone aside, to some users, centralization is a benefit in that they don't have a bunch of unknown privacy policies applying to the resolution of the names they need. For example, the privacy policy of 1.1.1.1 is pretty amazing from the perspective of data retention, secondary uses, etc. (e.g., I know my resolutions will be removed from their logs within 24 hours).

This may seem small but it seems to be lost in the centralization/choice discussion.
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