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Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Wed, 24 July 2019 02:58 UTC

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From: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
CC: Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com>, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>, "add@ietf.org" <add@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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I don’t agree that the email was “incoherent” as it pointed out the flaw in insisting that DNS filtering is a dead technology, the conflict being that DNS tampering is effective enough by bad actors to deserve work and attention but not effective enough by good actors to deserve consideration.

Thanks,
Tommy
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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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To: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:26 PM Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com<mailto:Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> Are people selling DNS logs to ad tech companies? Is that the ecosystem being disrupted?

Given how many valid points have been brought up in the last few weeks about the drawbacks of centralized app-configured DNS

Valid points: 0. (see how easy it is to just claim points are valid or invalid?)

I don’t think the glib tone is constructive.

You just sent me an email that said your thoughts were very well represented by an incoherent email about terrorists and encryption [0].

Spare me the tone policing.

thanks,
Rob

[0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/add/8purz-Ks-d6sNAynV5jd5zE71-o<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fadd%2F8purz-Ks-d6sNAynV5jd5zE71-o&data=02%7C01%7CJensen.Thomas%40microsoft.com%7C3315a67662854808ec0a08d70fdf5e17%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636995324339560293&sdata=mxpwRGW%2FW6XtRmJUY77F2YsVq9zRnHULCSWrK5lWWzk%3D&reserved=0>

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