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Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

Paul Ebersman <list-add@dragon.net> Thu, 25 July 2019 13:18 UTC

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Comments: In-reply-to Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> message dated "Wed, 24 Jul 2019 06:14:37 -0700."
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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ekr> Well, this is true, but in the Web context, as we move towards 100%
ekr> HTTPS, the importance of getting the right IP starts to decrease
ekr> quite a bit: if you get the wrong IP address, then this turns into
ekr> a connection failure.

And the web is a significant use case/population, but DoT (and maybe
DoH) and DNSSEC are useful for server to server, IoT, etc. (or should be
used). And the trend is definitely to more connected devices that aren't
human but that we don't want BOT'ed or lied to or spied on.

Let's make sure that we're not conflating the web and the internet as
the same thing.

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