Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] I-D Action: draft-ietf-add-ddr-01.txt

[Ben Schwartz <[e-mail]>]

Thanks for the update.  On the "85%" topic, I've rebased my PR  to the
latest draft: https://github.com/ietf-wg-add/draft-ietf-add-ddr/pull/11.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 1:25 PM Chris Box <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Tommy,
>
> It's a good set of improvements over the wording in -00. Thumbs up on
> those.
>
> I certainly appreciate DDR (even with DNR added) doesn't entirely solve
> the 85% problem; Barbara and I have written up some thoughts on that which
> she'll be sharing to the list imminently.
>
> Which Github bugs/issues were you referring to?
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 00:05, Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> We have posted an update to DDR and welcome additional review. Many
>> thanks to everyone who has reviewed so far. We are hoping to get additional
>> feedback as we rev a -02 ahead of the deadline for IETF 111.
>>
>> This version addresses some feedback regarding the use of IPv4/IPv6
>> examples, the use of IP hints, and some clarity of language regarding
>> terminology ("equivalence" versus "designation") and scope.
>>
>> I would like to highlight for the benefit of some feedback regarding
>> scope that the scope of this draft remains limited in nature. For example,
>> DDR has not and still does not attempt to solve the "85%" problem. You will
>> see commentary on the GitHub bugs following that scoping.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tommy
>>
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>> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Add] I-D Action: draft-ietf-add-ddr-01.txt
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>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> > This draft is a work item of the Adaptive DNS Discovery WG of the IETF.
>> >
>> >         Title           : Discovery of Designated Resolvers
>> >         Authors         : Tommy Pauly
>> >                           Eric Kinnear
>> >                           Christopher A. Wood
>> >                           Patrick McManus
>> >                           Tommy Jensen
>> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-add-ddr-01.txt
>> >       Pages           : 12
>> >       Date            : 2021-06-14
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> >    This document defines Discovery of Designated Resolvers (DDR), a
>> >    mechanism for DNS clients to use DNS records to discover a resolver's
>> >    encrypted DNS configuration.  This mechanism can be used to move from
>> >    unencrypted DNS to encrypted DNS when only the IP address of an
>> >    encrypted resolver is known.  It can also be used to discover support
>> >    for encrypted DNS protocols when the name of an encrypted resolver is
>> >    known.  This mechanism is designed to be limited to cases where
>> >    unencrypted resolvers and their designated resolvers are operated by
>> >    the same entity or cooperating entities.
>> >
>> >
>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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