Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure of the IETF

> On 22/02/2022, at 5:11 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jay,
> 
> Quite an undertaking!   No good deed shall go unpunished :-)
> 
> A few comments:
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> Looking at this, it would appear that ISOC is part of the IETF.   The ISOC community might be surprised to learn this.

The title includes "and inter-related organisations" partly to cover ISOC and partly because some people insist that "IETF" cannot be used as an umbrella term to include the IAB/IRTF while others insist that it has been used as such for many years.

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> Having the NOMCOM on top, might cause some to conclude it’s the main leadership body for all below it.

I put it at the top because of the appointment authority but I agree that this needs some form of adjustment, as Brian suggested, to explain how it is constructed.  If we were instead to have the IESG/IAB etc as the top layer then the arrows would likely become unmanageable.
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> I think it would be good to distinguish between appointing volunteers, vs. hiring employees/contractors.   For example, the ISOC board hires (selects, contracts, pays) a CEO, vs. the IAB appointing the IRTF chair.

That is captured by the box style - thick lines for community appointed bodies and double lines for contracted roles.

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> “owns” is used in different ways.   ISOC “owns” the IETF LLC is quite different from the IESG “owns” Working Groups.  I am not sure that “owns” is quite right for relationship between the IESG and Working Groups.  “Charters” might be better.

Agree and 'charters' is a better word.

> 
> Lastly, the use of black and white to distinguish different kinds of roles in the KEY is very subtle.  You might consider also using colors or shading.

I was trying to avoid colour because of the problems with that - I will look at shading.

Jay

> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> wrote:
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>> I’ve had a go at diagramming the structure of the IETF and inter-related organisations to assist new staff and contractors:
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>> 	https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Structure_-_February_2022.png
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>> While the RSWG/RSAB are not officially approved, they are included.
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>> Any feedback most welcome.
>> 
>> cheers
>> Jay
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Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure of the IETF

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