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Re: [admin-discuss] Attempt to diagram the structure of the IETF

Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> Tue, 22 February 2022 03:17 UTC

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> On 22/02/2022, at 12:21 PM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jay,
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>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> I think it would be good to distinguish between appointing volunteers, vs. hiring employees/contractors.   For example, the ISOC board hires (selects, contracts, pays) a CEO, vs. the IAB appointing the IRTF chair.
>> 
>> That is captured by the box style - thick lines for community appointed bodies and double lines for contracted roles.
> 
> I don’t think that relates to my suggestion.   I think you should distinguish between hiring someone (ISOC CEO, IETF Exec Dir, etc.) and for example, appointing a w.g. chair.   They both currently use dotted lines a text “appoint”.

Yes I understood - the difference is captured by the border of the subject of the appointment, where hired roles have the double line border, as do all contracted/legal entities.  However, I have changed "appoints" to "employs" for clarity.

> 
> A general comment, I wonder if this digram is trying to capture so much information in different line styles, box styles, etc., that it is becoming less useful (without a document that explains it).

Ultimately this is only a map, it’s the territory that it is mapping that has the underlying complexity.

New version now up with all the changes people have asked for (I think) including creating a flat structure by moving the NomCom.

	https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_Structure_-_February_2022.png

Jay

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> Bob
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