Re: [admin-discuss] Update on www.ietf.org analytics and proposal for next steps

["Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <[e-mail]>]

Brian

All very good and *useful* comments. Unsure though how to answer the  "why not" question but knowing that parts of the IETF web properties are never used is already interesting. 

I will work with Greg and the tools team to ensure giving more visibility to EMO.

Regards "et merci"

-éric 

On 09/02/2022, 20:45, "Brian E Carpenter" <[e-mail]> wrote:

    Éric,

    > prioritizing and improving content on the most visited pages

    Right, but IMHO an equally important point is looking at which pages are less visited *and why not*. Is it because they are not so important, or because they are hard to find? Are there pages that we would consider important that nobody looks at?

    > The aggregated data is made available to the IETF LLC staff, contractors whose role requires it, and the Internet Engineering Steering Group.

    I would suggest that EMO also needs to see the data. Are people finding and using the educational/tutorial material? There isn't enough detail in the overview reports to answer that (it's all hidden in the "Others" category), but thanks for publishing them.

    Regards
        Brian Carpenter

    On 09-Feb-22 21:18, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
    > Hello,
    > 
    > This note provides a follow up on the deployment of analytics on www.ietf.org <http://www.ietf.org>[1] and proposes next steps for deploying analytics on other IETF websites.
    > 
    > Per the implementation plan [2], the IESG and IETF Tools Team have reviewed the current deployment on www.ietf.org <http://www.ietf.org>and have 
    confirmed it is delivering anticipated results. In the past year, information from web analytics on has been used by IETF LLC staff and the Secretariat to understand and improve use of www.ietf.org in various ways, including by:
    > 
    >   * prioritizing and improving content on the most visited pages
    >   * identifying reachability issues for specific URLs
    >   * understanding sources of visitors to web pages
    >   * tailoring site-wide features to improve access to specific content
    > 
    > Aggregated analytics is available to the community at:
    > 
    > ​​https://www.ietf.org/policies/web-analytics/ <https://www.ietf.org/policies/web-analytics/>
    > 
    > During the discussion around the initial call for community input, several responses suggested expanding the scope of web analytics to include other IETF Internet properties.
    > 
    > Based on the IESG and Tools Team reviews, and experience gained in the past year, and requests by maintainers of other IETF websites, we propose 
    to implement analytics on:
    > 
    >   * IETF Datatracker (datatracker.ietf.org)
    >   * The IETF meeting registration system (registration.ietf.org)
    >   * Sites using the new wiki platform, Wiki.js (e.g. chairs.ietf.org and authors.ietf.org)[3]
    >   * Related Internet properties such as yangcatalog.org
    > 
    > These deployments would replicate and conform to the implementation plan developed for www.ietf.org <http://www.ietf.org>. They would NOT enable 
    cross domain linking.[4] As with the initial deployment on www.ietf.org <http://www.ietf.org>, the IESG and Tools Team would review these deployments after one year to ensure they are delivering the expected results.
    > 
    > The IESG appreciates any input from the community on this proposal and will consider all input received by February 23, 2022.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > 
    > Éric Vyncke
    > 
    > On behalf of the IESG
    > 
    > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/g0uqkYtFx3aFeOwyLxY7ob1DdTI/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/g0uqkYtFx3aFeOwyLxY7ob1DdTI/>
    > 
    > [2] https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/www.ietf.org-AnalyticsProposal-Revised-2019-09-24.pdf <https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/www.ietf.org-AnalyticsProposal-Revised-2019-09-24.pdf>
    > 
    > [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/eGihlMqjx9yKQqWhqnn4DtgKaSg/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/eGihlMqjx9yKQqWhqnn4DtgKaSg/>
    > 
    > [4] https://matomo.org/faq/how-to/faq_23654/ <https://matomo.org/faq/how-to/faq_23654/>
    > 
    >