Re: [admin-discuss] First annual IETF community survey

["Livingood, Jason" <[e-mail]>]

FWIW, typically when a blog post goes live there is also an email to IETF announce + email to admin-discuss, as well as a tweet and LinkedIn post. I’m sure Jay will take any other suggestions under advisement as we continue to improve communications.

Jason

From: admin-discuss <[e-mail]> on behalf of Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:24 PM
To: Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>
Cc: Greg Wood <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Jay Daley <[e-mail]>, Mirja Kuehlewind <[e-mail]>, Lars Eggert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [admin-discuss] First annual IETF community survey

Hi, Brian,

On Sun, May 9, 2021, 14:47 Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Hi Spencer,

> This is a silly question, but have people thought about having a mailing list only for blog announcements?

That almost seems like a contradiction in terms. Isn't a blog something you keep an eye on if interested?

Perhaps if you'd asked if a blog is "something a smart person would keep an eye on if interested", the answer could be "yes", but since you asked about me specifically, the answer is "apparently not".

> I don't need to look at IETF-Announce more than once a month

Huh? I have a dedicated inbox for ietf-announce that I read whenever it gets new mail. I can't imagine ignoring it for a week, let alone a month. It's right behind the WGs of greatest interest in my priorities.

Excellent. I'm honestly glad someone does.

And I say that, knowing that you and I are chatting in at least two other email threads that aren't on working group mailing lists. More eyes are helpful.

I don't need to read Ietf-announce every week.

I'm a former AD and IAB member. But I'm also participating in 3GPP SA2 and SA4, and apparently now (as of a couple of weeks ago) JTC 1/SC 29, and even IETF people whose professional responsibility is heavily tilted toward standards participation may also be participating in other SDOs who make most of their progress in a blur of email and round-the-clock teleconferences during week-long meetings, which are pretty distracting for some of us.

This might have been a silly suggestion (and you well know that it would not have been my first), but I wondered if Jay having to silently subscribe 50,000 email addresses to a new mailing list in order to reach the IETF community because so many IETF people are not subscribed to either the IETF discussion list or ietf-announce, might be a new datapoint to consider.

Like I said. "Do The Right Thing".

I hope we do, whatever that is.

Best,

Spencer

Regards
   Brian