Re: [admin-discuss] First annual IETF community survey

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

Hi, Jason,

On Mon, May 10, 2021, 09:48 Livingood, Jason <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> FWIW, typically when a blog post goes live there is also an email to IETF
> announce + email to admin-discuss, as well as a tweet and LinkedIn post.
> I’m sure Jay will take any other suggestions under advisement as we
> continue to improve communications.
>
I am now following IETF LLC, IETF, and IETF in LinkedIn. Thank you for the
invitation to join the 20th century.

I also searched for the Internet Architecture Board, but there doesn't seem
to be a LinkedIn account for them. Am I missing it?

I'm still not doing Twitter, as of this moment, but it didn't look like the
LinkedIn followers for the LLC and the IETF would get Jay much closer to
the 50,000 email addresses that (by our definition) make up the IETF
community.

But I'll let the people the community selected to think about this Do The
Right Thing.

Best, as always!

Spencer

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> Jason
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> *From: *admin-discuss <[e-mail]> on behalf of
> Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>
> *Date: *Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:24 PM
> *To: *Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>
> *Cc: *Greg Wood <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <
> [e-mail]>, Jay Daley <[e-mail]>, Mirja Kuehlewind <
> [e-mail]>, Lars Eggert <[e-mail]>
> *Subject: *Re: [admin-discuss] First annual IETF community survey
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> Hi, Brian,
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> On Sun, May 9, 2021, 14:47 Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> Hi Spencer,
>
> > This is a silly question, but have people thought about having a mailing
> list only for blog announcements?
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> That almost seems like a contradiction in terms. Isn't a blog something
> you keep an eye on if interested?
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> Perhaps if you'd asked if a blog is "something a smart person would keep
> an eye on if interested", the answer could be "yes", but since you asked
> about me specifically, the answer is "apparently not".
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> > I don't need to look at IETF-Announce more than once a month
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> Huh? I have a dedicated inbox for ietf-announce that I read whenever it
> gets new mail. I can't imagine ignoring it for a week, let alone a month.
> It's right behind the WGs of greatest interest in my priorities.
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> Excellent. I'm honestly glad someone does.
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> And I say that, knowing that you and I are chatting in at least two other
> email threads that aren't on working group mailing lists. More eyes are
> helpful.
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> I don't need to read Ietf-announce every week.
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> I'm a former AD and IAB member. But I'm also participating in 3GPP SA2 and
> SA4, and apparently now (as of a couple of weeks ago) JTC 1/SC 29, and even
> IETF people whose professional responsibility is heavily tilted toward
> standards participation may also be participating in other SDOs who make
> most of their progress in a blur of email and round-the-clock
> teleconferences during week-long meetings, which are pretty distracting for
> some of us.
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> This might have been a silly suggestion (and you well know that it would
> not have been my first), but I wondered if Jay having to silently subscribe
> 50,000 email addresses to a new mailing list in order to reach the IETF
> community because so many IETF people are not subscribed to either the IETF
> discussion list or ietf-announce, might be a new datapoint to consider.
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> Like I said. "Do The Right Thing".
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> I hope we do, whatever that is.
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> Best,
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> Spencer
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> Regards
>    Brian
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