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Re: [admin-discuss] Suggestion for COVID management at future meetings

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Fri, 09 September 2022 06:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [admin-discuss] Suggestion for COVID management at future meetings
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   Well the other thing to keep in mind about masking is that "it remains an
act of solidarity & respect" for... BIPOC (natch). In other words it's a
massive virtue signal and we cannot, and should not, discount members 
desires
to publicly proclaim they remain in solidarity with, and publicly express
respect for, BIPOC. Basically, if you don't put on a mask you're just a bad
person who does not respect BIPOC. So put on your mask. It probably won't
impact viral load but it will signal your virtue.

     https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1567843150374256640

   Dan.

On 8/30/22 7:13 AM, Jay Daley wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I’ve had an offlist suggestion for a different COVID management policy for future IETF meetings (i.e. 116 and possibly after that), which is that we ask all onsite participants to take a rapid antigen test each morning and confirm that is clear before participating and then masks are optional and there is no vaccination requirement.  It would be useful to hear what people think of that.
>
> cheers
> Jay
>

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