Re: [Aeon] Comments and next step proposal

We may also look at this draft for the long time submission.:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chen-pcp-mobile-deployment-04

-Hui


2014-04-23 22:47 GMT+08:00 Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) <tireddy@cisco.com>:

>  Agreed it’s a problem that interests other operators too.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-penno-pcp-mobile-qos-00 explains the
> problem and solution for OTT working with Mobile Network.
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> Cheers,
>
> -Tiru
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> *From:* Aeon [mailto:aeon-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Rong Zhang
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:41 PM
> *To:* Sheng Jiang
> *Cc:* gr@gsta.com; aeon@ietf.org; Fan, Peng
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Aeon] Comments and next step proposal
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> Hi all,
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> Speaking as the operator, I do see this trend that OTT are working with
> operators today which will help to improve the mobile internet user
> experience dramatically.
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> I have one basic comment that current documents have n't talked about 3GPP
> PCRF Rx interface which will allow OTT to work with today's mobile
> operator, I will work with Sheng to write the gap analysis document by
> including how IETF work could be a complimentary to 3GPP's specificaiton.
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> I am planning to attend next IETF meeting, and hope BoF will happen, I
> personally feel it is more Intarea scope than transport.
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> Cheers.
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> -Rong ZHANG
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> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi, all,
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> This is a real requirement from network operation perspective. Both ISPs
> and ICPs can benefit from this advance collaborative network model.
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> Rong Zhang and I are working on an gap analysis document, which we hope to
> share publically early next week.
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> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Sheng
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>
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> *From:* Aeon [mailto:aeon-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Fan, Peng
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 22, 2014 7:48 PM
> *To:* aeon@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [Aeon] Comments and next step proposal
>
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>
> Hello all,
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> Based on our operational experience, we have submitted a draft:
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fan-intarea-conet-ps-uc/
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> The purposes of this draft are to encourage less DPI in the network and
> propose more cooperation between OTT and Operators. Please kindly help to
> review the draft and comment here.
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>
> I have also reviewed the draft:
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> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckel-aeon-problem-statement/,
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> My comments are:
>
> 1)      Shall we consider to split the section 4 into an independent gap
> analysis document?
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> 2)      For the requirements section, we agree Req. 1, 2, and 7, and just
> want to clarify:
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> a)       Req. 3 and 4, do you expect the interaction between network node
> and host here before the real traffic start?
>
> b)       Req. 5 and 8 are not quite clear to us.
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> c)        I guess that it not always mandatory to apply Diffserv here, it
> could be optional?
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> 3)      If you read our draft, we have more experience about the
> limitation of current DPI/DFI in section 3.
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> 4)      Analysis of other existing solutions like ACL configuration can
> also be added in section 3.
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> Also for the draft:
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> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckel-aeon-use-cases/
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> Here I feel that too many use cases are listed here. You may consider
> narrowing down to a few use cases for which we have strong and specific
> needs, in order to get work further progressed.
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> After reading the current work proposed here, we are wondering whether two
> groups of people could work together to propose a BoF in the coming IETF
> meeting. To do that, we probably can:
>
> 1)      Merge the PS draft into one document.
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> 2)      Write an independent use case document.
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> 3)      Write an gap analysis document.
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> Once all three documents have finished, we could talk to ADs from both
> Internet and Transport area about the next step?
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>
>
> Thanks a lot for your consideration.
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>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peng
>
>
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