[Agentx] Fw: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review and comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem

["Randy Presuhn" <[e-mail]>]

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----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Russ Housley" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:00 AM
> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review and comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem
>

> WG Chairs:
> 
> Please make sure that your WG, and especially your document authors, 
> are aware of this situation.  Please follow the discussion on the 
> IETF Discussion list, and keep the WG informed about the way forward 
> as it develops.
> 
> Thanks,
>    Russ
> 
> 
> >From: "Ed Juskevicius" <[e-mail]>
> >To: "'IETF Discussion'" <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>,
> >         <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>,
> >         <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:43:50 -0500
> >Cc: 'Trustees' <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your review and
> >         comments on a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem
> >
> >The purpose of this message is twofold:
> >
> >1) To summarize the issues that some members of our community
> >    have experienced since the publication of RFC 5378 in November 2008,
> >    and
> >2) To invite community review and discussion on a potential work-around
> >    being considered by the IETF Trustees.
> >
> >Some I-D authors are having difficulty implementing RFC 5378.  An
> >example of the difficulty is as follows:
> >
> >   - an author wants to include pre-5378 content in a new submission
> >     or contribution to the IETF, but
> >   - s/he is not certain that all of the author(s) of the earlier
> >     material have agreed to license it to the IETF Trust according
> >     to RFC 5378.
> >
> >If an I-D author includes pre-5378 material in a new document, then s/he
> >must represent or warrant that all of the authors who created the
> >pre-5378 material have granted rights for that material to the IETF Trust.
> >If s/he cannot make this assertion, then s/he has a problem.
> >
> >This situation has halted the progression of some Internet-Drafts and
> >interrupted the publication of some RFCs.  The Trustees of the IETF Trust
> >are investigating ways to implement a temporary work-around so that IETF
> >work can continue to progress.  A permanent solution to this "pre-5378
> >problem" may require an update to RFC 5378, for example new work by the
> >community to create a 5378-bis document.
> >
> >The remainder of this message provides an outline of the temporary work-
> >around being considered by the Trustees.
> >
> >RFC 5378 sections 1.j and 5.3.c provide the IETF Trust with the
> >authority to develop legend text for authors to use in situations where
> >they wish to limit the granting of rights to modify and prepare
> >derivatives of the documents they submit.  The Trustees used this
> >authority in 2008 to develop and adopt the current "Legal Provisions
> >Relating to IETF Documents" which are posted at:
> >http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.
> >
> >The Trustees are now considering the creation of optional new legend text
> >which could be used by authors experiencing the "pre-5378 problem".
> >
> >The new legend text, if implemented, would do the following:
> >
> >   a. Provide Authors and Contributors with a way to identify (to the
> >      IETF Trust) that their contributions contain material from pre-5378
> >      documents for which RFC 5378 rights to modify the material outside
> >      the IETF standards process may not have been granted, and
> >
> >   b. Provide the IETF Trust and the community with a clear indication
> >      of every document containing pre-5378 content and having the
> >      "pre-5378 problem".
> >
> >So, how could the creation and use of some new legend text help people
> >work-around the pre-5378 problem?
> >
> >The proposed answer is as follows:
> >
> >   1. Anyone having a contribution with the "pre-5378" problem should add
> >      new legend text to the contribution, to clearly flag that it includes
> >      pre-5378 material for which all of the rights needed under RFC 5378
> >      may not have been granted, and
> >
> >   2. The IETF Trust will consider authors and contributors (with the
> >      pre-5378 problem) to have met their RFC 5378 obligations if the
> >      new legend text appears on their documents, and
> >
> >   3. Authors and contributors should only resort to adding the new
> >      legend text to their documents (per #1) if they cannot develop
> >      certainty that all of the author(s) of pre-5378 material in
> >      their documents have agreed to license the pre-5378 content to
> >      the IETF Trust according to RFC 5378.
> >
> >The proposed wording for the new legend text is now available for your
> >review and comments in section 6.c.iii of a draft revision to the
> >IETF Trust's "Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents" located at
> >http://trustee.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html.
> >
> >Please note that the above document also contains new text in section 5.c
> >dealing with "License Limitations".
> >
> >If your review and feedback on this proposed work-around is positive,
> >then the new text may be adopted by the Trustees in early February 2009,
> >and then be published as an official revision to the Legal Provisions
> >document.  If so adopted, Internet-Drafts with pre-5378 material may
> >advance within the Internet standards process and get published as RFCs
> >where otherwise qualified to do so.  Unless covered by sections 6.c.i or
> >6.c.ii, authors of documents in which there is no pre-5378
> >material must provide a RFC 5378 license with no limitation on
> >modifications outside the IETF standards process.
> >
> >The IETF Trust will not grant the right to modify or prepare derivative
> >works of any specific RFC or other IETF Contribution outside the IETF
> >standards process until RFC 5378 rights pertaining to that document have
> >been obtained from all authors and after compliance by the IETF Trust
> >with RFC 5377.  The Trustees will establish one or more mechanisms by
> >which authors of pre-5378 documents may grant RFC 5378 rights.
> >
> >The Trustees hereby invite your review, comments and suggestions on this
> >proposed work-around to the "pre-5378 problem".  The period for this review
> >is 30 days.  Microsoft WORD and PDF versions of the proposed revisions are
> >attached to this message.  Copies are also available on the IETF Trust
> >website under the heading "DRAFT Policy and Procedures Being Developed" at:
> >http://trustee.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html
> >
> >All feedback submitted before the end of February 7th will be considered by
> >the Trustees.  A decision on whether to move forward with this proposal will
> >be made and communicated to you before the end of February 15th.
> >
> >Please give this your attention.
> >
> >Regards and Happy New Year !
> >
> >Ed Juskevicius, on behalf of the IETF Trustees
> >[e-mail]
>