Re: [alto] ALTO minutes from IETF99 meeting
Jan Seedorf <ietf@j-f-s.de> Wed, 23 August 2017 19:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [alto] ALTO minutes from IETF99 meeting
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Hi all, since there were no comments, I have just uploaded the minutes to the datatracker. - Jan On 07.08.17 13:00, Jan Seedorf wrote: > Dear all, > > please find attached the minutes from the ALTO session at IETF99. > Please let Vijay and myself have any comments/corrections within a week. > > Many thanks to our note-takers Lyle and Sabine! > > - Jan > > *** > > IETF 99, July 16-21, 2017. Prague, Czech Republic > ALTO WG Meeting, Thu Jul 20, 2017 1330-1530 Karlin III > Notetakers: Lyle Bertz, Sabine Randriamasy > > 1330 - 1340 10' Agenda bash and WG update (Chairs) > - Focus is to finish chartered items so the agenda is based on this > (charter & milestone items are first; new topics are best effort) > - Goal is to finish milestones @ IETF-101 > - Richard : Finish means? > Jan: If something is close to WGLC that should work; in > principal finish means WGLC > - Last meeting: adopted path vector, unified prop, cdni > - milestones: Multi-Cost OK > - ALTO performance metrics needs more work (review) > - Props, Path Vector & CDNI need more work > - Other business? > - Richard: > - What is the timing for the next wg meeting if not meeting @ > IETF 100? > - Jan: Timeframe is around Singapore > - AD: Clarification that meeting should not be at the time of > IETF but closer to IETF 100 > - Workshop is mid August in Los Angeles with LHC and other teams. > > 1340 - 1355 15' ALTO cost calendar, S. Randriamasy > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-alto-cost-calendar-02 > - Reviewed all updates > - Discussion Items > - - RY several time granularities. Client can aggregate itself ? > => SR: yes the server should provide finest granularity. > (TODO: the client SHOULD interpret the time interval > size as the finest available from server). > - Richard / Sabine agree to move ahead on granularity response > - Sabine - The ALTO server provides the finest grain value for > the time-interval > - Jan: After issues herein are closed does the team agree this should > WGLC (hum) > - Result: No hums against moving it to WGLC once issues/open > items are resolved > - Please make the resolutions on this on the list > > 1355 - 1410 15' ALTO cost context, S. Randriamasy > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-randriamasy-alto-cost-context-02 > - Reviewed Concepts and Updates per WG feedback > - Questions: > - Dawn - One suggestion is to make suggestion to specifiy the > order of the response (has this been considered)? > - Different options were discussed. Will continute to mailing > list. > - Would adding context to the cost add extra privacy concerns? > - This should be discussed in the document. > - Richard - point out that this is part of a more generalized > issue of a type system in ALTO > - Type system was urged to be a future dicussion on this matter > - Richard: we need reconsider cost type design (type, mode, > where fit context?) > - Seb: IANA considerations ? > ==> SR yes we need look at other IETF Work and consider > IANA registration. > - For now, chair ask is to move ahead but since it is not part of the > milestones we will lead > > 1410 - 1425 15' ALTO incremental updates, R. Yang > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-incr-update-sse/ > - Overview of changes > - Does WG believe this is ready for WGLC after items are completed (hum)? > - No reaction either way > - Sabine - Main task is complete but needs work to specify who is > sending a SSE and for what reason > - Suggestion is that we can make the Client/Server roles more > explicit > - JS: JSON patch important for CDNI. WG seems now more active on that > one. > - SR: needs clarification on who requires what for what > - RY: yes we will need to clarify that > > > 1425 - 1435 10' CDN Footprints and Capability Advertisements, R. Yang > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-seedorf-cdni-request-routing-alto-10.txt > (This is a WG draft; needs to be resubmitted with the correct > name.) > - Jan presenting > - Advanced design is being looked at but the focus is the basic design > - Richard - Discussion wrt the envelope name > - outcome is to use somehting like "cdni/fci" > > 1435 - 1450 15' ALTO path vector, D. Chan > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-path-vector/ > - Discussed 3 remaining design issues > - Point raised about why this technique for MIME is not used in SSE > - Privacy implications exist for cross product query but PID flows don't > > 1450 - 1455 05' Extensible property maps for ALTO, D. Chan > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-roome-alto-unified-props-new/ > (This is a WG draft; needs to be resubmitted with the correct > name.) > - With no time left, discussion will be deferred to the list > - Jan: Please don't add use cases every 2 months or it will never get > done > > 1455 - 1500 05' ALTO cross-domain server discovery, S. Kiesel > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-xdom-disc/ > - Richard - Document is useful but if we can carve out the principal > it would be helpful, can you come up with more clear principles? > - JS: seb said will look at it. > - Will review Richard's comments and move to WGLC > > 1500 - 1509 09' ALTO cellular address extension, S. Randriamasy > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-randriamasy-alto-cellular-adresses-00 > - Proposed based on prior work > - Lyle - Ignore leading 0 concern as they are about LR(0) parsing and > over the wire frame alignment > > 1509 - 1518 09' ALTO extension: Flow-based cost query, J. Zhang > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gao-alto-fcs/ > - No time for discussion. All comments/discussions pushed to the > mailing list. > > 1518 - 1527 09' Resource Orchestration for Multi-Domain Data > Analytics, Q. Xi > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xiang-alto-exascale-network-optimization/ > (Possible remote presentation) > - No time for discussion. All comments/discussions pushed to the > mailing list. > > 1527 - 1530 03' Wrap up / Other business > - Next virtual interim meeting will be posted on the mailing list > > > AO = ALTO > AOS = ALTO Server > AOC = ALTO Client > > *** > > _______________________________________________ > alto mailing list > alto@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto
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