Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01

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Subject: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01
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Hi Kai, 

I know that 7285 includes something similar, but the proposed text is redundant with the structure of the table in that section. I prefer to not include this text.

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med 

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : kaigao@scu.edu.cn <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>
> Envoyé : dimanche 17 avril 2022 16:08
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : alto@ietf.org; Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
> Objet : Re: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-
> mode-01
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> Thanks for the quick update but I have one additional comment on
> the registry specification:
> I suggest adding the following paragraphs after the registry
> table:
> 
> NEW:
>    Requests to add a new value to the registry MUST include the
>    following information:
> 
>    o  Identifier: The name of the ALTO cost mode.
> 
>    o  Intended Semantics: A document defining a new cost mode must
>       indicate how costs should be interpreted (Section 6.1.2 of
> [RFC7285]).
>       For example, the "numerical" cost mode indicates the costs
> are
>       interpreted as values on which numerical operations can be
> applied.
> 
> Best,
> Kai
> 
> &gt; -----Original Messages-----
> &gt; From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> &gt; Sent Time: 2022-04-16 17:00:05 (Saturday) &gt; To:
> "kaigao@scu.edu.cn" <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>, "alto@ietf.org"
> <alto@ietf.org> &gt; Cc: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com> &gt;
> Subject: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-
> 01 &gt; &gt; Hi Kai, &gt; &gt; The changes are raisonnable.
> &gt;
> &gt; A new version that implements the changes edits is now
> online.
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks.
> &gt;
> &gt; Cheers,
> &gt; Med
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt; -----Message d'origine-----
> &gt; &gt; De&nbsp;: kaigao@scu.edu.cn <kaigao@scu.edu.cn> &gt;
> &gt; Envoyé&nbsp;: samedi 16 avril 2022 03:49 &gt; &gt; À&nbsp;:
> alto@ietf.org &gt; &gt; Cc&nbsp;: BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; &gt; &gt; Qin Wu
> <bill.wu@huawei.com> &gt; &gt; Objet&nbsp;: Shepherd review for
> draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear WG and
> authors of draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am
> posting this review of draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01 to the &gt;
> &gt; mailing list, as part of my shepherd write-up. Any comments
> and &gt; &gt; feedback are more than welcome!
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Best,
> &gt; &gt; Kai
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; ===================
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; This draft extends the base ALTO protocol (RFC 7285) by
> relaxing &gt; &gt; the constraint on valid cost mode values and
> introducing a new &gt; &gt; IANA (sub-)registry to document new
> cost mode values. The &gt; &gt; motivation is clear and the
> proposed mechanism is clean. Most &gt; &gt; comments raised in
> Call for Adoption and WGLC are addressed in the &gt; &gt; latest
> revision except Dhruv's comment [1] on giving more detailed &gt;
> &gt; specifications of the contents in IANA registry. There are
> two &gt; &gt; remaining comments and I think the draft is ready
> for publication &gt; &gt; once they are addressed.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Comments:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Section 3.1, last paragraph: The paragraph says &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt;    Future documents that define a new cost mode SHOULD
> indicate
> &gt; &gt; whether
> &gt; &gt;    that new cost mode applies to all or a subset of cost
> metrics.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; In that case, it seems to me that the default behavior
> should be &gt; &gt; specified in case the applicability of the new
> cost mode is not &gt; &gt; indicated. Either the "SHOULD" keyword
> is replaced by "MUST" or an &gt; &gt; additional sentence is
> required, e.g., &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; NEW:
> &gt; &gt;     If not explicitly specified, the new cost mode
> applies to all
> &gt; &gt; cost metrics.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Section 4:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; I also agree with Dhruv's comment that the contents of
> the "ALTO &gt; &gt; Cost Modes"
> &gt; &gt; registry should be better specified. While the initial
> entries set &gt; &gt; good examples of how to register a new cost
> mode, it can still be &gt; &gt; helpful if the format and content
> of each field are specified in &gt; &gt; more details, e.g., using
> similar specifications in Sections 14.2 &gt; &gt; and 14.3 of RFC
> 7285 (as suggested by Dhruv).
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; I also suggest renaming the "Specification" field to
> "Intended &gt; &gt; Semantics", to be consistent with other ALTO
> registries (in RFC &gt; &gt; 7285 and in the unified property
> draft).
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; [1]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/B1agkfVtdu7tsad2-
> &gt; &gt; MzErQXMk44/
> &gt;

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