Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01

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Subject: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01
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Hi Med,

Sounds good to me. Then I believe all comments are already addressed and the draft is ready for publication.

Thanks for all the work!

Best,
Kai


&gt; -----Original Messages-----
&gt; From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
&gt; Sent Time: 2022-04-19 13:21:47 (Tuesday)
&gt; To: "kaigao@scu.edu.cn" <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>
&gt; Cc: "alto@ietf.org" <alto@ietf.org>, "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>
&gt; Subject: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01
&gt; 
&gt; Hi Kai, 
&gt; 
&gt; I know that 7285 includes something similar, but the proposed text is redundant with the structure of the table in that section. I prefer to not include this text.
&gt; 
&gt; Thank you.
&gt; 
&gt; Cheers,
&gt; Med 
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt; De&nbsp;: kaigao@scu.edu.cn <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>
&gt; &gt; Envoyé&nbsp;: dimanche 17 avril 2022 16:08
&gt; &gt; À&nbsp;: BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
&gt; &gt; Cc&nbsp;: alto@ietf.org; Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
&gt; &gt; Objet&nbsp;: Re: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-
&gt; &gt; mode-01
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Hi Med,
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Thanks for the quick update but I have one additional comment on
&gt; &gt; the registry specification:
&gt; &gt; I suggest adding the following paragraphs after the registry
&gt; &gt; table:
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; NEW:
&gt; &gt;    Requests to add a new value to the registry MUST include the
&gt; &gt;    following information:
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt;    o  Identifier: The name of the ALTO cost mode.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt;    o  Intended Semantics: A document defining a new cost mode must
&gt; &gt;       indicate how costs should be interpreted (Section 6.1.2 of
&gt; &gt; [RFC7285]).
&gt; &gt;       For example, the "numerical" cost mode indicates the costs
&gt; &gt; are
&gt; &gt;       interpreted as values on which numerical operations can be
&gt; &gt; applied.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Best,
&gt; &gt; Kai
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Messages-----
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent Time: 2022-04-16 17:00:05 (Saturday) &gt; To:
&gt; &gt; "kaigao@scu.edu.cn" <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>, "alto@ietf.org"
&gt; &gt; <alto@ietf.org> &gt; Cc: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com> &gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [alto] Shepherd review for draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-
&gt; &gt; 01 &gt; &gt; Hi Kai, &gt; &gt; The changes are raisonnable.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; A new version that implements the changes edits is now
&gt; &gt; online.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers,
&gt; &gt; &gt; Med
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; De&nbsp;: kaigao@scu.edu.cn <kaigao@scu.edu.cn> &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Envoyé&nbsp;: samedi 16 avril 2022 03:49 &gt; &gt; À&nbsp;:
&gt; &gt; alto@ietf.org &gt; &gt; Cc&nbsp;: BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
&gt; &gt; <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; &gt; &gt; Qin Wu
&gt; &gt; <bill.wu@huawei.com> &gt; &gt; Objet&nbsp;: Shepherd review for
&gt; &gt; draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear WG and
&gt; &gt; authors of draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am
&gt; &gt; posting this review of draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-01 to the &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; mailing list, as part of my shepherd write-up. Any comments
&gt; &gt; and &gt; &gt; feedback are more than welcome!
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Best,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Kai
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ===================
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This draft extends the base ALTO protocol (RFC 7285) by
&gt; &gt; relaxing &gt; &gt; the constraint on valid cost mode values and
&gt; &gt; introducing a new &gt; &gt; IANA (sub-)registry to document new
&gt; &gt; cost mode values. The &gt; &gt; motivation is clear and the
&gt; &gt; proposed mechanism is clean. Most &gt; &gt; comments raised in
&gt; &gt; Call for Adoption and WGLC are addressed in the &gt; &gt; latest
&gt; &gt; revision except Dhruv's comment [1] on giving more detailed &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; specifications of the contents in IANA registry. There are
&gt; &gt; two &gt; &gt; remaining comments and I think the draft is ready
&gt; &gt; for publication &gt; &gt; once they are addressed.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Comments:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Section 3.1, last paragraph: The paragraph says &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;    Future documents that define a new cost mode SHOULD
&gt; &gt; indicate
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; whether
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;    that new cost mode applies to all or a subset of cost
&gt; &gt; metrics.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In that case, it seems to me that the default behavior
&gt; &gt; should be &gt; &gt; specified in case the applicability of the new
&gt; &gt; cost mode is not &gt; &gt; indicated. Either the "SHOULD" keyword
&gt; &gt; is replaced by "MUST" or an &gt; &gt; additional sentence is
&gt; &gt; required, e.g., &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; NEW:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;     If not explicitly specified, the new cost mode
&gt; &gt; applies to all
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cost metrics.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Section 4:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I also agree with Dhruv's comment that the contents of
&gt; &gt; the "ALTO &gt; &gt; Cost Modes"
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; registry should be better specified. While the initial
&gt; &gt; entries set &gt; &gt; good examples of how to register a new cost
&gt; &gt; mode, it can still be &gt; &gt; helpful if the format and content
&gt; &gt; of each field are specified in &gt; &gt; more details, e.g., using
&gt; &gt; similar specifications in Sections 14.2 &gt; &gt; and 14.3 of RFC
&gt; &gt; 7285 (as suggested by Dhruv).
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I also suggest renaming the "Specification" field to
&gt; &gt; "Intended &gt; &gt; Semantics", to be consistent with other ALTO
&gt; &gt; registries (in RFC &gt; &gt; 7285 and in the unified property
&gt; &gt; draft).
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [1]
&gt; &gt; https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/B1agkfVtdu7tsad2-
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; MzErQXMk44/
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; 
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