Re: [alto] Need to move SSE to WGLC, but ...

Dawn Chan <dawn_chen_f@hotmail.com> Tue, 12 June 2018 05:15 UTC

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From: Dawn Chan <dawn_chen_f@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [alto] Need to move SSE to WGLC, but ...
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Hi Richard, all

I see no objection in option 2 and the new attribute in UpdateStreamControlEvent to deal with the pipelining. I will upload a new version using this design soon.

object {
        [String control-uri;]
        [Boolean state;]
        [String remove<1..*>;]
} UpdateStreamControlEvent;


Thanks,
Dawn

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From: Y. Richard Yang <yry@cs.yale.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:50:39 AM
To: Gurbani, Vijay (Nokia - US)
Cc: Chan Dawn; IETF ALTO
Subject: Re: [alto] Need to move SSE to WGLC, but ...

Hi Vijay, all


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:03 AM Vijay K. Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@nokia.com<mailto:vijay.gurbani@nokia.com>> wrote:
Dawn: Yes, pipelining is another good reason to send the response in
the update stream control service.

This, and the other reasons I indicate in a different thread [1]
makes me prefer option 2.


+1

Richard

[1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/alto/current/msg03687.html

Cheers,

On 06/11/2018 03:47 AM, Dawn Chan wrote:
> Hi Vijay,
>
> Thanks for the reply, it is a good point that the result should also be sent in the update stream service.
>
> Besides, there is another point that the result should also be sent in the update stream service. If the server process requests asynchronously, when it receives the request from the client and insert it in its queue, it will first send a response back to the client; and after the server successfully processed the request, it will send a reply via the update stream service. This case requires the server to indicate the state of the “remove” operation in the reply. A simple attribute “state” with type JSON boolean in the UpdateStream ControlEvent can solve the concern. If "state" is false, the operation fails; if "state" is true, the operation succeeds.
>
> object {
>         [String control-uri;]
>         [Boolean state;]
>         [String remove<1..*>;]
> } UpdateStreamControlEvent;
>
> This is my idea for option 2.
>
> Wish to hear opinions from others in the group.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Dawn
>
> ________________________________________
> From: alto <alto-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:alto-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Y. Richard Yang <yry@cs.yale.edu<mailto:yry@cs.yale.edu>>
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:57:14 AM
> To: Gurbani, Vijay (Nokia - US)
> Cc: IETF ALTO
> Subject: Re: [alto] Need to move SSE to WGLC, but ...
>
> Dear Vijay, Jan,
>
> Thank you so much. It is a wonderful idea to check the WG for additional comments on the mentioned issues. The authors will address suggestions, if any, and then move the document forward.
>
> Thanks!
> Richard
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 11:04 AM Vijay K. Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@nokia.com<mailto:vijay.gurbani@nokia.com><mailto:vijay.gurbani@nokia.com<mailto:vijay.gurbani@nokia.com>>> wrote:
> Folks: Jan and I would like to move SSE [1] to WGLC.
>
> Looking at the mailing list, we note that the authors are asking input
> from the WG on an issue in SSE [2].
>
> We would kindly request the WG to spend some time thinking about the
> question being asked in [2] and to chime in with some thoughts.
>
> Assuming that there is no response by next week on this, the authors can
> proceed with their default position on this, for which they have an
> articulated reason in [2].
>
> Jan and I will follow up next week and if there has not been any further
> list discussion on this, we will move the work ahead to WGLC.
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-incr-update-sse/
> [2] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/alto/current/msg03684.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
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