Re: [alto] [Internet]Re: ALTO meeting with PBE-CC team

Jordi Ros Giralt <jros@qti.qualcomm.com> Tue, 14 June 2022 03:57 UTC

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From: Jordi Ros Giralt <jros@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: "yanniszhang(张云飞)" <yanniszhang@tencent.com>, yry <yry@cs.yale.edu>, "kylej@cs.princeton.edu" <kylej@cs.princeton.edu>, Jennifer Rexford <jrex@cs.princeton.edu>, Yaxiong Xie <yaxiongx@cs.princeton.edu>, "Qin (Bill) Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>, alto <alto@ietf.org>, "yixuelei(雷艺学)" <yixuelei@tencent.com>, "zhuoyuzhang(张卓筠)" <zhuoyuzhang@tencent.com>, "kaigao@scu.edu.cn" <kaigao@scu.edu.cn>
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Hi Yunfei and all,

Thank you very much for your productive presentations during the ALTO weekly meeting on 5/31 and for your note below. We discussed your work internally and we would like to encourage you to write an I-Draft. We would also like to suggest that you attend the IETF 114 meetings so we can discuss as a group your I-Draft. We also agreed that as you write the I-Draft, Kai and I would help you by providing guidance and feedback as necessary on behalf of the ALTO WG.

Please kindly make sure you are aware of the important dates: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/114/important-dates/

Specifically, 7/11 is the cut-off date to submit new I-Drafts before the 114 meetings.

Thanks,
Jordi
On behalf of ALTO
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Subject: 回复: [Internet]Re: ALTO meeting with PBE-CC team


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Thanks for the notes. I agree with Qin's suggestions on moving forward the work. Yixue and Zhuoyun,  would you please join the disucussion loop and give some input related to 3GPP? The synergy bw 3GPP and IETF, if possible, is very important when extending ALTO in cellular context.

BR
Yunfei


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主题: [Internet]Re: ALTO meeting with PBE-CC team
Hi all,

Many thanks Mahdi for taking the meeting minutes yesterday.

All, please find Mahdi's notes here and let us know if you'd like to add anything: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/blob/main/meetings-ietf-alto/ietf-alto-2022.md

Thank you all for participating in a very productive meeting. We look forward to continuing conversations on this important topic throughout the next weeks and as we go into the IETF 114 Meeting in July.

Regards,
Jordi on behalf of ALTO

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Subject: Fwd: ALTO meeting with PBE-CC team


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Hi Kyle, Jen, Yaxiong,

We will use WebEx for the meeting tomorrow at 9 AM ET:
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The goal of this initial meeting is to explore feasibility. We will give a quick overview of the current ALTO information structure. Then we can discuss how your work may be exposed to applications using standards to maximize its impact. If you want to go over your work and the latest updates before the discussion, please feel free to do so. We target a total of 45 mins.

Below is a short email that we sent to the ALTO working group.

Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.

Richard

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From: Y. Richard Yang <yry@cs.yale.edu<mailto:yry@cs.yale.edu>>
Date: Mon, May 30, 2022 at 10:19 AM
Subject: ALTO meeting with PBE-CC team
To: IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org<mailto:alto@ietf.org>>

Hi ALTO group,

We will meet with the PBE-CC team (Kyle Jamieson, Jen Rexford, and Yaxiong Xie, all from Princeton) tomorrow at 9:00 AM US ET to discuss the possibility of exposing more network information for applications.

The direct relevant paper is:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.03475

Another related work:
https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3405672.3409489

One "grand" scheme is network information exposure from control channel, data channel, and control channel embedded in the data channel, e.g.,
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8888/

The meeting info is at the bottom of this page.

Looking forward to see the design team and more tomorrow.

- Richard on behalf of the meeting organizers

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