Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09.txt
Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com> Wed, 09 October 2019 16:11 UTC
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From: Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 12:11:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09.txt
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Hi Kai, I reviewed the document again. I think you are proposing the following restructure, right? Entity -> Information Resource -> Entity Property (Resource-Specific Entity Property) -> Property Map -> Entity Domain (Resource-Specific Entity Domain, Aggregated Entity Domain) Intuitively it looks good. But when you look into the motivation of Resource-Specific Entity Property, you will find it is weak here. Because only when you use the Aggregated Entity Domain representation in a Property Map, you will need this concept. Otherwise, it is useless. That is why I put it behind those two concepts. But maybe your intuition is right. The " Resource-Specific Entity Property" should be out of "Entity Domain". How about we move 2.5.4 to 2.6? How do you think? Best, Jensen On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kai GAO <godrickk@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jensen and all, > > I'm looking at the -10 version and find it quite odd to have 2.5.4 > Resource-specific Entity Property as a subsection of 2.4 Entity Domain. > > My suggestion is to move 2.5.4 to 2.2 instead. Another potential > improvement is to move 2.4 Information Resource before 2.2. > > Best, > Kai > > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:28 AM Jensen Zhang <jingxuan.n.zhang@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Danny, >> >> Thanks for your review and comments. Sabine and I are working on the next >> revision. We will address all the issues in the next revision. >> >> And for your additional comment, actually, the "ip-pid-property-map" >> resource in IRD is an example of Aggregated Entity Domain. Sec 9.7 should >> illustrate it. But you are right, the current example in Sec 9.7 does not >> show the benefit of Aggregated Entity Domain. I will also revise this >> example in the next revision. >> >> Looking forward to your further comments. >> >> Thanks, >> Jensen >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:50 AM Danny Alex Lachos Perez < >> dlachosper@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sabine, >>> >>> I have a quick additional comment: >>> >>> I believe that an example (sec. 9) of Aggregated Entity Domain is >>> missing. >>> Perhaps you could re-use (or extend) the IRD example [0] and try to add >>> a couple of sentences to indicate equivalent entity property mappings (see >>> slide 17, 18 in [1]). >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Danny Lachos >>> [0] >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09#page-28 >>> [1] >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-alto-unified-properties-for-the-alto-protocol-02.pdf >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:42 AM Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - >>> FR/Paris-Saclay) <sabine.randriamasy@nokia-bell-labs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Danny, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Many thanks for your review. I saw your last comment is in Section 9.7. >>>> >>>> Should we consider that until section 9.7 your review is complete or >>>> will you have more questions? >>>> >>>> We look forward to your other comments, >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Sabine >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* alto <alto-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Danny Alex Lachos >>>> Perez >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 8:28 PM >>>> *To:* IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org> >>>> *Cc:* i-d-announce@ietf.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [alto] I-D Action: >>>> draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09...txt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear authors, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I started to read the “*Unified Properties for the ALTO Protocol*” draft >>>> (-09). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please, see my first comments in the attached file (search for >>>> '[DANNY]'). >>>> >>>> Many of them are suggestions about clarity and format issues . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I will continue the review and send additional comments in a short time. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Danny Lachos >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:41 AM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Application-Layer Traffic Optimization >>>> WG of the IETF. >>>> >>>> Title : Unified Properties for the ALTO Protocol >>>> Authors : Wendy Roome >>>> Sabine Randriamasy >>>> Y. Richard Yang >>>> Jingxuan Jensen Zhang >>>> Kai Gao >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09.txt >>>> Pages : 43 >>>> Date : 2019-09-04 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This document extends the Application-Layer Traffic Optimization >>>> (ALTO) Protocol [RFC7285] by generalizing the concept of "endpoint >>>> properties" to generic types of entities, and by presenting those >>>> properties as maps, similar to the network and cost maps in >>>> [RFC7285]. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new/ >>>> >>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09 >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-09 >>>> >>>> >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission >>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp...ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> alto mailing list >>>> alto@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> alto mailing list >>> alto@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> alto mailing list >> alto@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto >> >
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- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Danny Alex Lachos Perez
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Danny Alex Lachos Perez
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Silberschatz, Avi
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Jensen Zhang
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Kai GAO
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Jensen Zhang
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Kai GAO
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Jensen Zhang
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Kai GAO
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-pr… Kai GAO